You can skip this suggestion if the words “historical”, “realism” and “reducing meta” triggers you.
Main statements:
- Guns that weren’t mass produced during a campaign shouldn’t be bought with silver in that campaign (with compensation)
- Guns with same firing mechanism (quality, barrel length) should have identical rpm, dmg, recoil and dispersion but can have different reload speed, running speed (weight system when?) and cost.
- Levels between campaign and sides of each campaign don’t need be equal.
Moscow:
MP38 / 40, PPD34/48 / 40 have same parameters, but different cost - early analog is more expensive to buy and upgrade
Guns to remove from buying - MKb, Fedorov, AVS-36 (replace with SVT-40), but players who had these guns recive their silver cost and bronze (if it was upgraded from lvl 2) and recive 1 fully ipgraded copy (as gold order weapon)
Tanks to remove - Pz. IV F2, T50, owners recieve 1 gold vehicle order, german tanks get APCRs
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I don’t think they have all the data.
Some people upgraded for full cost, some waited for squad unlock that reduces cost.
Some people used weapon upgrade orders.
Buying gun You could get lucky and it was fully upgraded.
There was never full silver/bronze refund in this game, and i guess there never will be
Fuck em new guys lol
“This topic is only for those that agrees with my silly ass suggestions, if only I could id remove everyones comment that doesnt support mine or even better in honour of ussr id ban everyone that disagrees”
Why not to ask for one?
1 MKb in all 3 squads better than 15, dont you think?
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You spent your time reading my suggestion you wasnt interested in, you spent your time writing this comment, and what did you get?
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Just search forum for:
Allow us to sell mortars / flamethrowers / AT guns that we have stockpiled before orders rework
It’s been ages, it makes sense as we can sell other weapons, countless suggestions and nothing.
What makes You think they will suddenly do full campaing rework.
And what about all premium squads? Full auto is good if You paid for it?
Are they gonna refund money? LOL NO
But these items weren’t taken out
In f2p yes?
I’m just gonna say i enjoyed moscow before end-level full auto spam too, maybe even more at it was unique and not another full auto spam campaing.
But that ship has sailed, some campaign/progression rework is in works, but i would not count on removing those guns.
This will just never happen, faster you accept that, faster You can move on
Ok, so game is bad now.
But p2w is good
i’ll remember to never read Your suggestions again
How you want to sell premiums then?
And you still can fill up your squads with mp40 and kiraly
short history of moscow
-germuts lmg works like AR
Nerf.
- PPD’s rule the game again
- T-50 which counter ironicly was paywalled
- PPSh & and its counter m38
- Way too late kiraly
- T34
- F2 yet again way too late.
Yeah its always been such a blast.
There are countless premium squads will BA rifles, semi auto guns.
Assault premium squad used to be underpowered compared to regular ones, which was good.
Even then selling premium squad is meh.
It’s like You forget there is premium time that is paid for, battle pass, each level can be bought for moeny, every gun, every soldier, every event can be skipped, every customization can be purchased for what?
MONEY
Best f2p games don’t even sell unique guns that have no counterpart, just selling skins is somehow enaguh to make them profitable.
Yet we need fucking 5MG squads to somehow keep this game afloat, please stop it, get some help
So regular squads whould running with mp40 spam, premium squads are running with underpowered shit spam, how then premium squads are better when regulars are running with MKb spam instead of MP40?
And how premium tanks are better, when there are unlockable T-50 and Pz.IV F2?
Dude they are not meant to be better, they are unique collectibles, You get some funny skins and weapons that are not availabe in game. And XP bonus
Do You know p2w definition, and why those games are fucking dogshit?
Besides some of them actually are better now which is becoming a problem.
Premium tanks with HEAT that can 1 shot tanks wherever You hit them.
4-man falmethroower squads, while normal one only have 2 flamethrowers.
5-MG squads, while normal squads only get 3 MG’s.
If this continues then have fun playing whales vs bot matches
I’m not suggesting to reduce full-auto spam, I’m suggesting to move equipment from the future to the corresponding campaign, leaving 1-2 as unique.
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No, we dont want or need this, this game is a casual fps
there could be another additional idea;
-guns that werent mass produced and widely used should get a massive bump up in its prices so players cant afford them as much as they can now, those guns being low numbered/OP/automatic guns that give significant advantage over other weapons.
now, this doesnt mean that a shitty rare weapon will cost alot, it just means that the op weapons will be far less affordable and therefore less common in battle, in order to encourage players to mostly stick to what was historically used by both sides;
german equipment for example (common)
-kar98k
-luger P08
-gewehr 98
-mannlicher m1895
-walther p38
-mauser C96
less common
-gewehr 43
-mp43/1
-STG44
-sniper STG44
rare;
-FG42
-FG42 II
-FG42 II sniper
i know people will complain that axis would get shredded by allies because soviets have 572357230567230 ppsh41’s, and the answer to that is to instate a balancing factor, where stuff that gives germans some leverage against soviets wont be severely bogged down (like fg42/II)
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Illogical. The StG was produced 400k+ times, same goes to the G43 which isnt really uncommon since they started to appear in late mid-war and late-war phases. And then saying the Luger, Mannlicher and C96 were common is ironic since the Mannlicher was not produced by the Germans and not used by their front-line units, the C96 was mostly a Luftwaffe weapon and the P08 was far less common compared to the P38.
It doesnt really work rn in Moscow anyway so it wont change anything.
This system also doesnt make sense for Volkssturm weapons in Berlin since well they are not good and mass produced but were common in '45 Germany.
I don’t think each gun object that the player own have a property to keep track of what the initial level is, so there is no way to award the correct silver or gold order as you’ve suggested.
Maxing a weapon is not that difficult. From the dev perspective there are no good that could come from giving players gold orders. A gold weapon order cost 750 gold, people who paid to buy the weapon for it’s rarity in game will feel that they got screwed over. The instant giving of perhaps thousands of gold orders will crash the in game economy and DF wouldn’t make enough to even keep the lights on.
I think asking for paid items to be free wouldn’t get you much traction from the devs.