well, no.
pavlov was not important to the germans.
else they would have pulled men from the center and move them there.
if any propaganda, was the soviets one trying to play it off more than it actually was 
and that’s not me saying it.
really reccomend this guy separating both axis and allies propagandas from actual sourches
with that being said, nothing to take away from those who actually took fight in it.
It well researched topic. Germans try to take it multiple times, but again and again Pavlov boys take it back.
Maybe it was not the same strategic point. But it was a building near a river. And all of this buildings was a last stand of Stalingrad Garrison. And they made it. You can’t disagree with this fact. 4-th army of wehrmaht surrendered
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forgot to mention, i am currently trying to recreate it in one of the mods too.
loved red orchestra 2 iteration.
but mine will be in winter.
( still… most of it’s propaganda though… )
I absolutely have no interest to read political rubbish that you make here. Try to be close to a topic, new one
Pavlov’s house is a great example how party members and their family plus friends took all the credit for the suffering of thousands of nameless soldiers.
Again, there is no place for European kids speak about the things they actualy no idea. Return to a topic would you
That’s all you actualy can say. Nothing, please find another topic for political disquss thx pal
Hey!
That’s intellectual theft!
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As I say before - its a cavalry uniform of Red Army corps which units fight as common infantry. There was entire division of cossac plastun (who fight only as infantry unit)
chicks dig the hat not on a guy they wear it, but great idea
Give them horses
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I dont understand it either, alot of folk apparently thought them “Ubermenschen” would be mercyful with their slaves or something - how else do you explain all those foreign SS devisions?
It depends on what devisions you are talking about.
Well we should also consider that fascism in general was so to speak popular at this time, alot of countries tried to mimic Italy - technically even Germany.
Heck, even the US had alot of political support for the nazis. Before the war of course.
Its history mate, and even though Hitler was insane, I personally dont think everything was as black and white as people think.
I am not trying to justify anything here, people having a reason doesn’t necessarily mean the reason they had was a good reason.
Look, I give you an example, German moral was destroyed after Stalingrad, however in the last months of the war the German pilots were known to have more dedication than ever, obviously because they knew that if they failed their missions, it would mean allied bombings will destroy cities, killing women and children. Does that make those Nazi pilots heroes, or does it not count because they fought for the wrong side? I dont know, but what I am trying to say is that some behaviours are human and understandable, and in the case of your traitorous cossacks - when you lose many in your village from starvation, just because Stalin decides that the quota isn’t good enough… well again I claim that wanting revenge and siding with the devil in this case is “human”.
Bobi shot our plane even after end of war. Because he was a g dm kid on a plane. It never tld some of them a hero.
I pay respect only for those who refuse nazi orders to bombing a churches or some civil structure.
Again, we talk about Cuban cossac regiments - official units of Red Army. No traitors, no politics as well. Guys who served their home and and won the fight
