Change the MKb42h 15 to 10 because it has a 10rnd magazine and a 15rnd magazine never existed at any point ever

:rofl:

I don’t know all the weapons in the game that have inaccurate magazine sizes, but another example that comes to mind is the Japanese MP28 with the 50 round magazine… I believe they only came with 20 and 32 round magazines and a 50 round magazine was never used.

don’t fortget M2 Stinger which only had 100rounds and got 200. -.-

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Yup, lots of inaccurate weapons in this game.

@br2 it would need severe damage & precision buffs as with 10 rounds its much worse than the mkb with 20 rounds. it already is much worse than that gun.

@br1 it could be placed and be properly tiered. still nothing exciting, as that gun was a total flop, as any 10 or 15 round full auto weapon with limited damage will always be in this game, but at least it would be playable and enjoyable as a rare item.

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Considering how more or less most weapons are accurate I don’t think it’s too much to ask to increase that to all (within reason)

Here’s a pretty good example of a 50 rounder

There are 4 weapons with incorrect mag sizes based on the model:
Scotti Naval Rifle
Stinger
Vollmer VMP 1926
MKb 42 (H) “15”

Maybe Fyorodorov (25), but I’m unsure

It’s not an MP 28 it’s a SIG 1920, and those came only with 50 round mags, they just mislabeled them. I explain more in this post:
Change the names of the Japanese MP 28 (7.65 mm) and SIG 1920

And there were 50 round MP 28 mags, they were just used by the British, the Lanchester’s and MP 28’s magwells are identical.

I will never stop banging on about this:
The weapon presentation and implementation has nothing to do with historical accuracy, since if you change the setting to modern day you’d call people crazy for even thinking about criticizing a wrongly modeled using “historical accuracy” as an argument. You even bring up what does count as historical accuracy, or inaccuracy, namely the use, lack of use, placing in time etc of the weapons. So once again, weapon visual and mechanical implementation and representation has nothing to do with historical accuracy, at all.

(Sorry about the long edit @Luvs2spooge :sweat_smile: )

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if you ignore missing reload animations, missing +1 chamber implementation, lacking animation details, wrong classifications, wrong descriptions or names, and missing bayonets, I can only really think of 6 weapons that are actually inaccurate from the top of my head:
Scotti Naval Rifle (magsize)
Stinger (magsize)
Vollmer VMP 1926 (magsize)
MKb 42 (H) “15” (magsize)
T20 (wrong muzzlebreak for the mounting of bayonets)
Beretta 1918 (has full auto, when in reality it only had semi-auto)

(Maybe Fyodorov with madsen mag)

So there aren’t actually that many, at least in my opinion.

How bout the MP 28 with the 50 round magazine? They never made an MP28 with a 50 round magazine, or the M2 Stinger and the 200 round magazine just to name two left off your list. Or the KE7 MG that the Japanese have in game, which, they actually never had in WW2. Or the Winchester 1866 or 1877 which never were were used in WW1 or WW2. It isn’t just the inaccuracies of weapons in the game, its weapons in the game that never were used in the war. And I think if you scratched a bit harder, you would fine several more weapons that are not accurate.

There is none in the game? There’s the Lanchester but that’s it, and:
As I said previously:

I’m sorry? It’s the second one I mentioned.

Those weapons are accurately implemented though (for the most part, cough 1887 loading ramp reload missing cough). The argument here is about historical accuracy, which is a completely different issue.

I guess if I’m gonna be really picky then I guess the M1A1 Para is somewhat inaccurate with the lack of jungle mag functionality, same with the UD M42.
Saying that the Cönders or Hino are inaccurate would be pointless since they’re basically more or less paper guns.
OH, I found one more proper one, the STG 45(M) is based on a modern reproduction of the MKb Gerät 06H, meaning it’s based on something else than what it says.

But do you have any other weapons in mind?

MP 28 50 round
No 50 round MP28 was ever madet. :wink:

Nope, cuz I really don’t care. My whole thing is, if were not going to worry about historical accuracy then why worry about guns that are in the game that shouldn’t be, or magazine size of others. :joy: The game is fictional, and the Dev’s most likely won’t change anything anyway.


MP2850
Several sources I saw said that MP 28 had a 50 round magazine

:open_mouth: The Japanese MP28 never had a 50 round magazine, as I have found, and the Japanese one was the one I was referring to.

The Japanese MP28, which was a variant of the Bergmann MP18, never used a 50-round magazine; its standard magazines were 20 or 32 rounds.

I wasn’t searching the “German MP28” that the Germans might have used during the war, however, my search said that a 50 round magazine was available in the late 1920’s which it does not appear they used. So you’re correct that a 50 round magazine was available for the Germans to use, but not for the Japanese. :joy:.

Doesn’t the MP-18 have an inaccurate fire rate as well? Doesn’t it shoot around 550 rpm but irl it shot around 300-500 rpm?

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Lots of guns in the game have inaccurate rates of fire, but I never checked to see what the vast majority of guns in the game are supposed to fire, just a dozen or so. The only two I know for sure are accurate are the MP40 and the Grease guns, as every place I have searched says their ROF is basically the same as the ones in the game. But, the Dev’s never seemed to be concerned about accuracy, so I am not going to spend as much time as I once did requesting changes.

Take the FNAB 43 for example, I can search and find three or four places as well as a video that claim it shot a ROF between 600 and 837, and only ONE source that claims 400. The Dev’s set it at 400, which I am sure shot at 400 at some point, but my guess the version soldiers used in combat probably shot between 600-650 as not many manufactures set them to fire at it’s fastest ROF, which in this case would have been 837.

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Japan bought several MP 28s and captured several from the Chinese, it is impossible for Japan not to have taken a version with 50 rounds

Not impossible, just unlikely.

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Not according to this, but who knows for sure. :yum:
MP 28

It also says this about the Japanese MP28

“The Japanese did not use the MP28 in combat; instead, they produced their own submachine gun, the Type 100, which was heavily based on the MP28 design”. They used the MP28 in testing, not combat but they did use the captured Thompsons, so the Dev’s got that correct. :wink: However, I seriously doubt that the Japanese captured Thompsons had 50 round drums.

You are trusting in AI, most of the AI information is wrong, its big source is AI Lol