Change Event MKB 42 magazine from 15 to 10 rounds

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Gold order/event weapons such as G43 Kurz and Fedorov Rifle (25) have both been adjusted due to the lack of evidence they ever had the 3-round burst fire option.

So far not a single piece of evidence has been presented that the 15-round magazine ever existed even on paper, let alone physically.

The only shorter magazine known to have existed for testing was the 10-round magazine.

Hence, the short magazine MKB should hold 10 rounds.

  • Change it to MKB 10 rounds magazine which existed
  • Keep the MKB 15 rounds, I have evidence it existed
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They’d need to drop it to BR2 at the very least

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Well if it has its 10 rounds, then nobody is gonna use itbover smgs or the battle pass br3 assault rifle. If it becomes available for all classes like the volkssturm rifle, then maybe.

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Magazines should have accurate capacities, it’s as easy as that, otherwise we’re opening a whole can of worms we shouldn’t get into…

Now, the weapon in its current form would no longer fit into BR III if only the magazine is touched, this is true. However, the people voting no because of this reason alone suffer from a lack of imagination, things can be changed to make it still have a place inside the game.

My preffered solution for example, is that after giving it it’s correct magazine size is to then turn it into a SF-rifle, keep it in BR III, and give it the same ability of the VG 1-5 of being able to be equiped on (almost) every single soldier type (I don’t think MG gunners or Snipers can equip them, but that’s it). This way, you can still give it to Assaulters, as I want to do, yet people more worried about the performance of the weapon itself can instead give it to riflemen or any other class lacking firepower in BRs outside of BR V or IV.

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Give to the MKB 42 (15) its correct 10-round mag and change BR from 3 BR to 1 BR. And all will be fine.

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Im quite sure we have been there quite some time now.

Do tell me ? Nerfing rest of BR3 guns to only have 10 rounds too so its somewhat competent ?
Adding some cod unicorn stats to the gun so it reloads in 0.2 seconds ? Which would arguably be the only option to make that 10 round viable in any condition.

“Omg 15 round probably never existed, but im fine with some wizard fuckery”

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As far as I am aware, there’s only two guns this applies to, both added very recently, and even then one of them at least has the excuse that “well, we don’t actually know”, so I have no idea what you’re on about, this can and should be fixed, easily.

Lmao, what are you on about. :laughing:

Are you joking or can you just not read…?

This isn’t even a strawman, you’re actally just dreaming up an argument I never made, I don’t know if I should even take you seriously or if you’re just trolling. It’s so far away from what I actually said in such bad faith that I hope you’re just pulling my leg, because you can’t be serious.

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T20,hyde,hei,tokyo arsenal and uragan no one knows even existed.
Seems bit weird its fine to have jets from 1946 and guns that never went to production or were absolutely never used.
But 15mag on event gun is a no no.

Could ask the same ? Was there ever a single just semi-automatic mkb42 made ?
If not, what are we calling this one ?
Fully automatic assault-rifle Mkb42 but with broken fire selector so its stuck on semi.

Probably never existed 15 mag -/- never existed assault rifle ???

Kinda explained above.

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Hmm we have some people voting “Keep the 15, I have evidence”, but no evidence has been posted in this thread :face_with_peeking_eye:

Why can that be?

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its exist in this so historically accurated game that i consider that as bigger evidence than any university professor could provide.

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Oh, nice, you moved the goal post.

Right, you left the conversation about magazine size and now you want to talk about prototypes.

Well, I’m not having that conversation with you, stay on topic.

Magazine sizes should be correct, it’s only obviously wrong in one case, possibly wrong in one other, and practicly wrong in a third (Stinger has 200-round boxes despite purposefully that never being done, they existed but were never used).

Oh, now you decided to read the rest of my reply. :laughing:

Just poorly. :laughing:

I never said it should be semi-auto only, I quite clearly wrote “SF-Rifle”.

No idea what you’re on about mate.

There is no such thing as a WW2 era 15-round Mkb series mag, if you’ve got evidence to the contrary I ask you to present it.

I’m quite sure the Mkb 42 existed though.

You’re just putting words in my mouth about apparently wanting something I never asked for again, aren’t you…?

:clown_face:

Alright, I’m done with you, you can’t read, and you keep making up arguments for me just to debunk them rather than actually engaging with anything I’ve written.

Absolute 10/10 dreamer. Good day.

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Not really, just genuinely curious with what kind of mental gymnastics we are playing here.

Okay so something never used on battlefield is fine because mental gymnastics but 15 round is no no.
gotcha.

And how does assault rifle become SF-rifle ? Again, just curious here because history and all that important shit.

Its presented in this absolutely 150% historically accurated game, I dont think we need any more evidence.

Bawwbaww 15 round probably never existed.
“Im fine with never existed SF rifle”

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… and why does this post not contain any BR reduction if you demand a power level nerf?

these types of not thought out slop posts just feed gaijins badly managed information funnels into concluding “our pleb customers want mkb nerfed, we nerf mkb, be happy now plebs!” and then the gun gets ruined.

the issue might be the reason why the luftfaust is STILL in a way too high br despite gaijin “fixing” its br.

edit: with 10 bullets its much worse than the br2 mkb, this trash gun belongs to br1 so people actually have a reason to play it.

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or make it a trooper weapon in BR2

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I don’t demand a “power level nerf”.
I suggest replacing the magazine which never existed with one that at least existed for weapon testing.

Couldn’t care less if it becomes BR1 or BR5, just that it gets a magazine which existed.

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exactly, you dont understand what youre talking abount and nevertheless you demand changes to the game. reducing the ammo size by 33% is an extreme power nerf.

not caring about the consequences of this change completely invalidates your whole post. this is a prime example of why most posts on this forum are slop. not an insult, just an objective observation.

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It’s quite clear that @Veekay45 cares for the accuracy of the weapon (or specificly the magazine) itself, rather than the exact performance of said weapon.

That’s a crude way of putting it, sure, a better way would be “I don’t care how exactly they’re going to balance the gun, as long as it’s magazine is corrected”, and that’s not an invalid position. People disagree over all sorts of minutiae (it’s the forums after all, as you said), on how best to implement a thing, so stating the overarching goal, leaving details for other to decide later, is a perfectly acceptable approach (indeed, it’s actually even encouraged by official suggestion guidelines for promoting discussion).

If anything, all this proves is that, even if you try to not have a position, people will still complain that you don’t have a position. There’s no pleasing everybody.

At best, Veekay should at least have considered writing a segment for what to do with the gun after the magazine is changed, something along the lines of: “here’s a plausable way to rebalance it, but it’s not definitive and not my main point, I just want the magazine corrected to historical levels, what exactly happens after isn’t my main concern”, but that’s about it.

In short, something I've done in a previous suggestion myself:

Change the stats of the new Patchett and make it BR III
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Surprisingly people seem to have liked my proposed stat changes for the most part anyway in this example, so a third poll voting alternative seems to have been unnessesary in my case, but it is something I do recomend others to follow.

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his position is demanding one sided, incomplete changes to the game in his own interest while actively ignoring consequences of this demands, putting his own interests ignorantly over the overall balance & objective quality of the game.

this is the definition of a low quality BS opinion. if people actually starting thinking like adults & using proper thinking, 95% of slop posts would instantly disappear, because people would post better, thought out things instead.

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“Balance and quality” will not matter if we slowly turn into Vanguard clone with 100-round drum Garand and T-34-152 because they are “fun” to people like yourself.

Using your own wording, your “objective quality” argument is a slop opinion because everyone’s priorities are subjective.

For me it doesn’t matter if a gun is good/bad/BR0/BR6 as long as it didn’t even exist.

If they give you a 300 round Gaarand for Christmas, you’ll arrive parroting about “overall balance & objective quality” as well?

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you acting like people are using it rn

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