Buff the Winchester 1866

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The Winchester 1866 is an annoying weapon to use, and it’s an eyesore to have in the reserve because gambling gave me 3 of them. They have terrible range, terrible shot dispersion, terrible visual recoil, an abhorrent reload speed, and bad damage past point blank range. In terms of effectiveness, it’s on-par with pistols, except pistols reload faster.

I think that the damage and damage falloff should be kept the same, as with the reload; the main issue to me is the visual recoil and the dispersion. The cartridge the 1866 fires is not that powerful, the game recognizes this since it takes 2 shots to down someone 20 meters away, so why does it kick harder than bolt actions?

Then the shot dispersion decides to rear its ugly head, and now some of your shots don’t bother hitting cause of RNG, which would be fine if the weapon wasn’t already super reliant on you hitting every shot cause the DPS is worse than a bolt action and the reload takes 3 times as long as a bolt action.

I understand having some attributes of the 1866 being weak, but it’s cruel to have EVERY attribute of the 1866 be terrible.

  • Buff the shot dispersion
  • Buff the visual recoil
  • Buff both
  • Buff a different attribute
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well uh, what do you expect from a rifle thats getting close to 100 years old in the game? by ww2 its already an antique that belongs in a museum

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The devs should’ve thought of that before adding it. It’s not even a meme weapon like the Berdan or the Liberator.

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That entire april 1st event was a shitshow. At least the liberator makes sense in a ww2 setting

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It’s a br 1 semi auto. It’s fine as is.

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Except it’s a BR1 semi auto that isn’t worth using because its effectiveness is objectively just worse than the USMC Springfield, not even by a little bit either.

It’d be fine if it wasn’t in the silver crates, if I’m spending hundreds of thousands of silver I at least want the weapons I get to be useable, especially considering how many pistols there are in the crate.

It has double the rounds and double the fire rate. It doesn’t need to be better. It’s fine where it’s at

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No it isn’t, its affected by the bolt action perks to increase ROF

Unless u wanna uptier it

It also has triple the reload and a half the damage if you can’t melee the dude you’re shooting at. It actually has a third of the damage if you down the guy after 2 shots cause then you have to shoot him 3 whole times just to kill one dude.

Ok so it’s a semi auto with some perks from bolt actions. Even better

Woah, you can get to the 2-3 business day long reload even faster, that sure makes up for everything that’s wrong with it

If u have such a problem with the reload why didn’t u suggest that? All the other stats are more than fine for the lowest br in the game. A br1 semi auto should be weak

Have you actually used it before? It’s a 2 shot at 11 meters, it’s a 2 shot at any range if they’ve got vitality, it’s a 3 shot if you down them, at any range past 30 meters if unusable cause of the shot dispersion and the visual recoil and the damage, it’s effective TTK is lower than even the worst bolt actions in the TT.

It’s worse than bolt actions at basically any range, it’s worse than SMGs at any range, it serves no purpose other than to be a disappointment from the silver crates.

I use it in my br 2 lineup cuz I’m a fan of lever actions. The only thing that screams bad about it is the reload. Everything else seems fun and fine.

I’m glad you like it, I know there are weapons I use because I like the feel of em instead of their stats. Unfortunately the 1866 objectively is just useless, beyond “BR1 weapons should be bad” levels of garbage. Even at the ranges it’s most effective, a bolt action is still arguably better.

a buff in its reload would be better honesty the rest is fine since its a br 1 gun anways

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Honestly the reload was the cherry on top for me, my main issue is the visual recoil. I don’t know if it’s just me but the visual recoil makes follow-up shots much much more difficult than with other semi autos.

Never had that issue.

I wouldn’t have that issue either if I could sell or trade these things away, but I’m stuck with em till they become usable.