Buff the damage of the Pavesi rifles in 8mm Breda to compete with the Kretz

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The old battlepass guns Pavesi M42 and Pavesi SVT both fire the powerful 8x59mm Breda cartridge which has 4,057 J of energy.

Meanwhile, the newest battle pass rifle, which is also a BR2 semi auto like the Pavesi M42, fires .276 enfield (7x60mm) which only has 3,853 J of energy.

The Pavesi M42 is a battlepass BR2 rifle just like the Kretz, fires a stronger bullet, and does significantly less damage. They should be buffed to do very slightly higher damage than the Kretz rifle.

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Im into it, but it also would mean that I made a wrong choice by choosing Gold Order Scotti over Pavesi (I liked the look more)

the Kretz should be BR3 imo, its a nice gimmick that way, where you can trade a lower ammo pool for much more powerful rounds.

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If you increase the damage, the rate of fire must be the same as that of the Kretz p13

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lets give the gimmick to germany too because the pavesi is the PERFECT rifle for it, even better than the kretz

Fair enough, for some reason I thought the Pavesi was a 10rnd.

yes, the other pavesi rifle is 10rnd

Ngl completely forgot about it, since I normally use the SVT not the M42.

But that would be really cool then, move both up 1 BR but with the extra powerful round as well.

Your fault for not getting both, haha.

They were like the same so I wanted to spend remaining gold orders on something else xd

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No, no, and no. This is such a german bias suggestion. The pavesi shoots 4 times as fast, and there’s a shit ton of them in the game now. I have like 6 or 7 svts all handed out for free, and 4 of m42. Meanwhile there was only 4 of the kretz at time of post, now a total of 6.

It’s American bias if they get to have the Kretz and nobody else can have anything like it

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Put Kretz on BR3. That would solve pretty much anything. Rather than pushing for further powercreep.

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The Kretz is massively outclassed at BR3.

Yes yes it’s so german/italian biased, only the greatest nation such as USA can have something like this, amirite? :eagle:

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I do agree with the damage increase since the ammo it uses is indeed a powerful one. However If the damage of the Pavesi rifle to be increased to Kretz level then the RoF should be decreased accordingly as well, for balance reason i guess.

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Yep, I agree that the other stats should be balanced around the damage. I just desire the Pavesi rifles to fill the same role as the Kretz as it makes sense due to the cartridge used

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We wouldn’t be able to set it up the same way, so it wouldn’t work identically but it does still need that buff. Slower rate of fire and full size rifle damage with a five round magazine and low “semi auto rate of fire” , I can see this working for something five or six rounds but anything beyond that would have to be firing significantly slower or have significantly less damage.

If I remember correctly the fire rate was 170 on the kretz. Can’t check now as I’m at work. That’s still significantly faster than a bolt action, so it causes the kretz to sit in a weird spot. Even if we got a little bit of a damage buff just slightly, and better dispersion I think that would be a huge start.

I agree with this statement. If the Kretz really is overpowered at BR2 because of its high damage, just reduce it?