Why are we bringing up the KE7? It has nothing to do with the BAR. It’s just a light machine gun that uses box magazines
Because it’s apparently just another BAR clone despite the only similarity between them being the fact that they’re automatic rifles. I guess we gotta remove the Charlton and Chauchat as well.
Again, because history. Which is your whole argument, yes? This type of gun was a staple in U.S.'s armory. This type of gun was NOT a staple in germany’s army. Not sure why i have to spell it out for you.
Type of gun? What other Automatic Rifle did the US use? None. The BAR is an American weapon, that they didn’t use properly, none other. The KE7 certainly isn’t a BAR. They’re entirely different guns that were developed by entirely different people with no connection to each other. Should the Chauchat and Charlton be removed as well because they’re not BARs? Or can they stay because they’re used by the Allies? So why should the KE7 be counted but entirely different SMGs not when comparing them to the MP18?
You want actually similar guns to be exclusive? Remove the Lanchester, all Stens and the Austen as copies of the MP28. Remove the Type 96, Type 97, Type 99 and both Brens as copies of the ZB-26. Does that sound acceptable? Is it in any way reasonable?
Seeing as we’re never gonna find a point we can agree on I say we should stop this now and make room for other people to discuss the post instead of arguing further.
Who cares? Just you! Yes… that is exactly what it’s doing… except you think that luxury should only be given to US for some reason.
Oh, now you are using “It’s just a game” argument? What happened to your “UsA mUsT gEt tHe bEsT BaR BeCaUsE HiStOrIcAl” argument? Have some consistency why don’t you? You are changing your opinion on a whim like a chameleon just to make your already ridiculously selective, double standard cope sounds less ridiculous. Make it make sense.
That’s probably the stupidest opinion i’ve ever seen in here and that says a lot since i’ve seen a lot of stupid opinions. 
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Yes, it’s a game, therefore game logic must be used in accordance with “historical accuracy”.
What’s stupid is trying to make every faction the same.
I would bet money that the majority of people who play all the factions/nations would rather have a different gaming experience for each instead of the same for each.
They came in here saying “german bias”… projecting hard with that one.
Mhm. And germany had the most powerful tank weaponry and armor wise… so you didn’t require super pershing… i doubt you’d agree with that.
This is portrayed in game. They are the best in br1 and 2 all around. Panther/tiger is also the best tank in br4 all around, and guess what?..the king tiger is best all around in br5. Br3 is the only bracket that doesn’t give germany straight up superior tanks and is more even across the board. If germany has the king tiger in game without any of it’s historical downsides and other historical elements for balance, then super pershing is fine. If the game stopped at regular tiger/panther, or portrayed true U.S. air superiority amongst other things then no super pershing could of been left out. There were hardly any king tigers in battle, so the difference there isn’t worthy enough argument on it’s own. However the u.s. only getting m9 launchers would of been fine if they got 17-pounder AT guns in game before the ofenror.
Things can be left out if other things exist. This is my core argument.
Gaijin’s response - ’ get the D’
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Really sad that they nerfed RoF but left out the recoil as it is. Now it’s just a worse BAR.
RIP.
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You almost certainly don’t have this weapon; the stats lie to you. Here is what it looks like when fully maxed out.
No he’s correct on that one because he took that screenshot from the test server with upcoming update.
It is true that they nerfed the RoF on FN Model 1930 but completely left out it’s excessive horizontal recoil. Could have made the recoil similar as BAR 1918A2 at the very least but nope.
Did they actually nerf the fire rate?
Yes they did.
What an L.
This is the stats in the current dev server. U can also notice the name change to it
Will get less recoil to compensate for the RoF reduction
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