BSA Model 1924- A portable .50 HMG for the Allies

Recently, I wrote a topic about a Japanese 20 mm autocannon that has a good potential to be added in game. However, as a new type of weapon(portable large caliber machine gun), finding a balanced implementation for it will be an issue.
So today I am going to take another example for the Allies, and focus on how to add this kind of weapon suitable in game.

The Allies could get the BSA Model 1924 as their portable large caliber machine gun. It was intended as an aircraft machine gun, this gun was rejected by RAF due to its slow-firing and having small capacity, only three of them were made.

Serial number 1(with Lewis gun’s stock & rear sight)


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Serial number 2

The No.2 variant has a unique trigger position, it has two triggers and charge handles on both side of the gun.





Unlike the Lewis gun , it use long-recoil mechanism. The barrel and bolt carrier recoiled back upon firing until the bolt carrier would hit a stop while the barrel would reciprocate back into its original position.



The empty casing would then eject under the gun while the bolt carrier was held back and then the carrier would be allowed to return forward when a new round was chambered.


Ejection port
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Specification(No.2)

  • Total length:147.3 cm(without wooden stock)
  • Barrel length:96.5 cm
  • Weight:23.2 kg
  • Muzzle velocity: 790m/s
  • ROF:400 rounds/min
  • Ammo capacity: 37 round drum magazine
  • Available belts(12.7×81mmSR)
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To add this weapon useful in the game , I suggest that we use the model of No.1 variant and use the side trigger of No.2.

Source

https://guns.fandom.com/wiki/BSA_.5
THE OTHER .5 INCH GUNS - Small Arms Review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUPcSZVklA&t=1130s
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As I mentioned earlier, since this is a new type of weapon, there are several issues we need to discuss. Given that it is a one-shot-kill machine gun capable of destroying light armored vehicles, it seems that it could potentially be used by both machine gunner and anti-tank gunners(secondary weapon).

To balance this weapon, we might need to restrict it to the prone position only, even though it weighs only slightly more than the PTRS-41 (20.3 kg), or nerf it’s damage just like the AA guns.

Finally, we need to determine a suitable Battle Rating (BR) for this weapon.

Do you want to see the BSA Model 1924 in the future?

  • Yes
  • No
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Which soldier class could use this gun?

  • Machine gunner
  • AT gunner
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Which Br does it belong?
(If you voted AT gunner in the 2nd poll, plz vote ‘‘anti tank weapon’’ option in the 3rd and 5th poll)

  • Br 5 machine gun
  • Br 5 machine gun ( prone only)
  • Br 5 anti tank weapon
  • Br 5 anti tank weapon( prone only)
  • Br 4 anti tank weapon
  • Br 4 anti tank weapon( prone only)
  • Br 3 anti tank weapon( prone only)
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Should we nerf it’s damage as same as AA guns?

  • Yes, same as AA guns.
  • No, one-shot kill is fine
0 voters

Default ammo

  • Machine gun(37/0)
  • Machine gun(37/37)
  • Anti tank weapon(37/0)
  • Anti tank weapon(37/37)
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2 Likes

Is better for AT soldiers because It don’t let people use ammo pouches on It because is a secondary gun not main gun

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A portable HMG sounds funny and I like funny

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I still think this kind of weapons belong to the portable AA/ mediocre ATR category

Are you sure they are mediocre



Only USA have a mediocre ATR on that one ill agree but the others have enougth firepower for kill BR1-2 tanks or any plane

Mediocre for their role as ATRs, awesome as portable AA weapons, but that is at low BRs. For sure most players are not as skilled as you at destroying planes with single shot ATRs at high BRs, but I bet most players wouldn’t have problem at doing it with a high caliber auto weapon.

Idk I play on console with a controller most people should be able to do that with mouse and keyboard It took too manny shoots kill the F-80 is way too fast but well I just like a ton the WZ.35 because is polish and the 1270meters per sec bullet It have the single shoot german ones have like 1200 soviet and Japan ones have less idk how much



Still killed planes with both

@MakeWarNotLov3 You need to post in English only in this forum, thanks :slight_smile: