Brummbar

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  • br4
  • br5
  • no
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Seeing a need to create a new direct-fire infantry support self-propelled gun for the infantry, Alkett developed a self-propelled artillery piece based on the chassis of the Panzer IV medium tank in service. The vehicle became known as the Sturmpanzer IV , though it would become known more popularly by the nickname Brummbär (German: “Grouch”) that the Allied intelligence assigned to it.
Brummbär Späte Ausführung - Vehicles - Enlisted

With 300 units manufactured between March 1943 to May 1945, the Sturmpanzer IV saw its first use at the Battle of Kursk and was present at most major combat operations afterwards, proving to be an extremely effective tool for neutralizing fortified positions, enemy troops, and armored vehicles.
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STURMPANZER IV (SDKFZ 166) BRUMMBÄR - Quartermaster Section

br3/4 he only
br5 heat and he
Armour
front / side / back
Hull
100 / 40 / 20 mm
Turret
100 / 50 / 80 mm
Visibility
98 %
Crew

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What exactly is the Brummbar’s cannon in? And specifics for the ammos?

150 mm Stu.H 43 L/12 howitzer
Ammunition
38 rounds
Reload
basic crew → aces
22.4 → 17.2 s
Vertical guidance
-8 / 30°
Horizontal guidance
-15 / 15°
Turret Rotation Speed
basic crew → aces
Horizontal
10.5 → 15 °/s
Br3/4 he
Br5 heat/he

If geijin could add it
Ap/br3
Aphe br4

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Br4 105mm sherman
Armour
front / side / back
Hull
63 / 38 / 38 mm
Turret
76 / 50 / 50 mm
Visibility
121 %
Crew

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Brummbar
I.Gr.38 HE 61 61 61 61 61 61
HEAT 185 185 185 185 185 185
Sherman
AP 91 88 78 67 57 49
HE 10 10 10 10 10 10
APCBC 104 102 93 84 75 68
105
HEAT 130 130 130 130 130 130

Brumman would be better at killing shermans then shermans killing brummbar
If brumman is br4 with heat 105 is br3, sorry grieving over 105
The bruhman at br4 can kill most us tanks with he but crowell, jumbos, pershings need overpreasure

I feel that It have too much armor for BR3 then a guy will come saying nooo aim for the weakspots the problem is that the soviets should get something on the TT that is able to Pen It properly on BR2 even most BR3 tanks struggle to kill It at least soviet ones Usa get the Cromwell with 122mm Pen the M10/M18 with 140mm Pen or the shermans with 104mm Pen but soviets get mostly 70mm or like 80 and like 130 on the T-34-57 but no one use that one because garbage HE filler on both HE and APHE shells.
Also the USA M1 57mm AT canon can Pen the brummbar but the soviet 45mm is just garbage for that also the sturmpanzer with the same gun is already BR3 soo I don’t think the will add a much more armored sturmpanzer on the same BR.
Look the problem for add It to BR3 is that soviets have basically no Pen but enougth Pen for kill BR3 German and japanese tanks there is people asking for the Chi tos for go to BR3 but that would just be too much for that BR is like say that the T-34-57 should go to BR2 It have way too much armor for figth BR1-2 idk what they could add for counter It as a tank and not a TD because Germany and Japan get turreted tanks(Ho-I and PZ III J1 or puma) that can Pen the KV-1 KV-2 only thing I think they could give them is the SU-85A but thats just a SU-76M soo is not turreted I can only think on give them a captured PZ III J1 or something.

front pen the brummbar in a game where gray tanks are impossible to flank, and thus get the 90 degree angle you need
with he shells or aphe shells, or anything that can kill more than one crew at a time

The M1 only have AP here on WT the tanks that use It have APHE and AP but no HE the tank situation is balanced for now add stuff like that at downtiered BRs would break the already bad balance

It’s BR III for the TT

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ISU-152 is on BR 4 so logically this one also belongs to BR 4.

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i like it to be br3 , but it would be fair and nice if m4a3 105 and isu-152 be at br 3 to counter .

The M4A3 105 was moved to BR4 literally this update. They’re not going to move it back down immediately, nor should they.

sad news i know

As for me, its br 4 and as an ivet or prem unit, in the tt
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I miss him kind a bit in Br 3 but i dont say there should not be a BR4 version with Heat rounds,
There could be 2 Versions of this vehycle one with HEAT in BR4 and a version without Heat in BR3.
Or more easy to add 2 options for this vehycle with Heat it will be BR4 if would you click no Heat Ammo it would be BR3.

Now by Aircrafts in the game countdown there is the option how much fuel you have what is most likely the most non important option possible.

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Oh yeah I forgot abouth the ISU the ISU have worse frontal armor than the brummbar at least on the front they could just give Germany the StuH 42 without the track armor and make the tracks armor a skin or something

No machine gun so br 3 is correct

brumbar with machine gun
  • br3 no mg
  • br4 working hull mg
  • no
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Brummbär Späte Ausführung - Vehicles - Enlisted
as you can see latter models had a hull mounted mg at higher levels all tanks need them so the snail needs to add one to the brummbar

Should we really raise the br of a tank just because we gave it a MG port?

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This is testing my patience : r/WutheringWaves
if you dont want the machine gun then just stick with br3, and no br3 no mg for you
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its 150mm gun, 100mm of armor and a machine gun at br4
even without a mg its not br3 with it, hell no is it br3