I agree that it should be BR3 if the ISU‑152 is also BR3.
you mean like the sherman 105
Isu have hmg but brumbar have no hmg so isu should be remain br4
Br 3 with mg
Since the kv2 with mg is br 3 in game
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ISU‑152 in Enlisted — Current Status and Gameplay Overview
In Enlisted, the ISU‑152 is currently a BR 5 Soviet casemate tank destroyer, but many players argue it should be downgraded to BR 4 or even BR 3 due to its weak armor, slow reload, and limited mobility
br3
which should also be br4
then why the hell is the sherman 105 br4 a sherman 105 is not better than a kv2
Why is the kv2 at br3
It has a gun armor and a closed turret, it’s broken
It really is though. The HE shells can overpressure the majority of opponents if you know where to aim, it’s got a very fast reload, turreted, 2 LMGs and an HMG. Only thing it does worse is having a bit less armor and explosive power in each shell.
That makes them the same br with tradeoff not the 105 a br higher
How can a 105mm overpressure better than a 150mm when the only factor is explosive fill not velocity
what does a hmg do that no other hmg can do, can it kill any tank it will meet, no can it shoot down planes, no
can you shoot more than one mg at a time no,
Many American tanks have an HMG, but it doesn’t affect their BR, so why should the Soviet one? Besides, the Brummbär has something even better—a standard hull-mounted MG—so you can fend off infantry without exposing yourself, unlike in the ISU-152.
The Sherman 105 has a faster rate of fire and a proper machine gun that can be fired without exposing the crew; its armor isn’t much worse than the KV-2’s—a vehicle that could arguably be moved to BR IV (ignoring the long reload and the lack of a turret machine gun on the tech-tree version). As a HE-slinging tank, the Sherman 105 is far more effective than the ISU-152 and KV-2 combined; the fact that it can’t one-shot a King Tiger (H) isn’t a dealbreaker.
The kv2 has a longer reload because is has a 6 inch vs 4 inch shell. It’s the same brcas sherman 105 or should be.
What matters more is how often the tank can fire at infantry—who can easily destroy it with a single Panzerfaust shot. Even a successful shot from the KV-2 won’t wipe out the entire enemy team at once, leaving you completely defenseless between shots; the Sherman 105, however, is different: it has a faster rate of fire, and its machine guns provide protection in every direction, not just where the hull is facing.
It’s BR 4 vehicle. People that are asking BR 3 for this vehicle, i think they are just rage baiting at this point. ISU-152 is on BR 4. Sherman 105mm is also on BR 4. Sturmpanzer 2 is on BR 3. BR 3 for this vehicle whether it has MG or not doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.
Yes but it will kill more soldier if a 4 inch shell kills 4’men the 150 would kill 6 to 7 leaving the mg to kill 3 men which increases the likelihood that a survivor has a panzerfaust. Again that’s an argument for them to be the same brvnot the sherman to be a higher br.
I recently tried playing the ISU-152, and it was simply terrible: no damage, no armor, no mobility, no rate of fire, no speed, practically no gun traverse, and virtually zero ability to defend against infantry (every time I manned the HMG, the commander would get shot within a couple of seconds). The tank has literally no redeeming qualities; it can’t win a duel even against tanks with a lower BR if we spot each other at the same time. Even if the enemy doesn’t spot me immediately, I might still fail to destroy them with the first shot, giving them a full 20 seconds to take me out with a single hit to any part of the tank.
Survivability and armour
Armourfront / side / back
Hull90 / 90 / 60 mm
Turret90 / 75 / 60 mm
time. Even if the enemy doesn’t spot me immediately, I might still fail to destroy them with the first shot,
that sounds like a skill issue
I know it sounds strange, but the ISU-152’s HE shells perform worse than the KV-2’s; they can detonate without dealing any damage at all.
Plus, 90mm of armor is a joke; the Pz.III J1 (BR 2) has 106mm of penetration, so it should easily punch through the ISU-152’s armor, even considering the slope.
with some form of he otherwise it kills like 1 crew member at a time
If the game were running right now, I’d show you exactly where to shoot to blow up the ammo rack in a single shot—or I’d confirm that you were right and that it wasn’t a fair comparison. As it stands, however, I can only state that anything capable of penetrating the KV-1 and KV-2 will just as easily penetrate the ISU-152, leaving it with absolutely no chance of survival.
And everything can kill the crew of the m10 m18 m36 that does not stop them from being in too high of a br, speed and maneuverability mean nothing in enlisted
By everything I mean, artillery, rifles, shotguns, pistols. Knives ect