Hello again, fellow forum members. It’s me—your loyal friend and fellow forum member, Sabotir. I won’t keep you waiting; let’s talk about weapons—after all, that’s what our game is all about. Today’s topic is bolt-action rifles with extended magazines for the USSR.
These rifles were developed in the USSR in the 1920s in an effort to improve the standard Mosin rifle and make it modern (for its time) and even better. Fedorov and Degtyarev were the ones working on this.
The Design Bureau, headed by V. G. Fedorov, was involved not only in work on automatic weapons but also in the improvement of the Model 1891 rifle.
You see, the design bureau headed by V. G. Fedorov was engaged not only in work on automatic weapons but also in improving the Model 1891 rifle.
And so, as early as 1924, an expanded meeting was convened, at which the participants defined the main tasks for improving the Model 1891 rifle; moreover, the Artkom had stipulated in advance that the proposed changes to the Model 1891 Mosin rifle should not affect the established manufacturing process.
V. G. Fedorov, together with V. A. Degtyarev, set to work. As a result, they jointly developed and, three years later, in 1927, presented two examples of the modified rifles at the scientific research firearms testing range.
Based on the results of these tests, no decision was made regarding mass production, and they remained prototype models.
We’re not particularly interested in the 10-round magazine variant, but the rifle with a 20-round magazine will come in handy. Especially since the Japanese have already added the Arisaka with a 30-round magazine. Although… A Mosin rifle with a 10-round detachable magazine, as a counterpart to the VG.2? Hmm, that sounds interesting. Why not?
However, the magazines were not the only difference.
Changes. Namely:
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- The rifle was equipped with detachable 5-, 10- and 20-round magazines arranged in a staggered pattern
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- The Mosin rifle’s old sight was replaced with a new sector sight similar to that of the Mauser rifle
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- The front sight was equipped with a safety
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- The rifle’s safety is now of the Fedorov type, located on the trigger (which is actually a very sensible solution, since the original Mosin safety is a pain)
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- Instead of the original needle-type bayonet, the rifle was equipped with a new fixed blade bayonet
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- The barrel has been shortened from 800 mm to 645 mm
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- The stock rings have been removed.
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- The bolt has been modified to resemble that of the Arisaka rifle (without screws) (which has improved reliability).
Special thanks to @_DELAVR for these photos, since he was the one (!) who posted them on the forum. I hope he doesn’t mind their use in this post.
But is the rifle’s magazine detachable? Or is it fixed, with reloading done via clips? That’s a good question. Unfortunately, we don’t know for sure. But we can make some educated guesses. We can see a tab on the magazine—or, to be more precise, as far as I know, the magazine catch—which suggests that it’s detachable. Is the magazine detachable? Furthermore, the photo shows that the magazine is not in the receiver, which kind of suggests that it can be removed from there. Plus, it says that the magazines are detachable. Conclusion: the magazines are detachable.
Yes, it was like that. And it really existed. As far as I know, this isn’t fake. It’s a field-made, makeshift modification of the Kar 98k by Soviet partisans (correct me if I’m wrong)
Well, there’s not much to say here, really. It’s essentially the same Kar 98k, just with a magazine from the ZB-26. Capacity: 20 rounds.
But in case anyone is interested, here’s a bit of additional information about this partisan Kar 98. I also managed to find a photograph of this partisan Kar 98 with a magazine from a ZB-26 machine gun in the book Soviet Partisans by Anatoly Kotelenitsa.
You can find this photo there as well, though it’s slightly different and of poorer quality.
Is the magazine detachable in this case? Good question. And again, in this case, it’s impossible to say for sure 100%. But most likely, unlike the Fedorov-Degtyarev Mosin, it’s non-detachable. Why? Because there’s no magazine catch in the photo. I looked closely for a long time, but I couldn’t find it. Most likely, it was simply welded in place or secured some other way, replacing the original 5-round magazine. And what does that mean? It means reloading with clips. There are only 20 rounds, so that works out to 4 clips of 5 rounds each for a full reload. So… Probably no - it is not detachable.
So, it turns out that the USSR has two candidates for a bolt-action rifle with an extended magazine. Given that the Japanese have been given the Arisaka with a 30-round magazine and the old German Gewehr 98 Wartime mod, these could be useful additions to the game.
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