Doesn’t Grease Gun still have very low dispersion?
Guess that never was enough to make the gun usable.
Only 0.50sih. It is low for SMG level, but in no regard worth mentioning in comparison to Box PPSh and MP38.
M1921AC has 0.21, though.
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For all intents and purposes the 1921 ac is a hybrid smg ar that actually outclassed the assault rifle America gets
0.52 - 0.54 so less than average smg’s that are between 0.7-0.8
I dont exactly know wheres the exact dispersion limit when guns turn to lazorbeams, 0.2 is anyway extremely accurated.
Id guess the 0.5 is still just that inaccurated that the extremely low rof cant really compensate the slightly better accuracy.
And as sidenote, id say the slow .45 aint exactly helping there.
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Lower dispersion counteracts low rof
High rof guns with the same dispersion have a higher chance to kill because they simply get to roll the dice on whether your bullet hits or not more often
Thats why PPSh Box was so incredibly broken as it had both, making its lower damage point barely noticable
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But not anymore yes? Same dispersion as the Box mag now
Well, the poll can be officially counted as concluded I believe
The reddit results are also rather uniform also against the issue or they believe body armor should be adjusted other ways
Now question is whether the devs still deem it a knee-jerk reaction but that’s on @MajorMcDonalds to communicate to us
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Its important to keep in mind that 44 voted to give it a downside and 73 voted to remove it, compared to 21 people wanting to keep it “as it is”
This can be interpreted as 117 who are not satisfied with body armor as it is currently implemented compared to 21 people who are satisfied as it is currently implemented.
Anyway @ImpostorWhenSUS if you have not done so already, I would encourage you to create a follow up post there discussing the results. It would give more attention over the matter
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I’d rather put it the other way around. The only effect of this bulletproof vest is that when the opposite side uses a submachine gun to fire the vest, it can fire two more shots. A semi-automatic one might fire one more shot. With full power, one shot kills. This thing can provide at most two or three more shots at long range and at most one shot at close range
The Assault Engineers should definitely keep it…since the Germans have thier reinforced helmets. The WHOLE Soviet army does not need body armour, just stand behind an indestructible KV-1.
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Limited and restricted body armor for event squads is acceptable, its just absurd that every single soldier, even guerillas, can equip armor in the USSR
Imagine if every German soldier could equip the heavy helmets and have 90% reduced headshot damage, everybody would riot. But nah, USSR can have their special armor for every single soldier, there’s no double standards here
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People downplay how impactful 10% damage reduction is, even if we ignore that some guns need one extra bullet to kill because of it, the effectively increased damage drop at range effects all German guns, even bolt actions.
Also funnily people also claim that the German helmet is also pointless - however surviving one headshot from rapid fire SMGs does matter.
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Im personally downplaying it because i choose not to focus on it… you see a guy with body armor and your morale has been destroyed and to you, you’ve already lost the gun fight
literally just get over it and learn to adapt to unfortunate situations.
Ah yes, just like soviets & murricans adapted to FG42 by AVT & T20
to KT2 by having all GE antitank weapons
To STG by having AK47 & Hyde.
You heard the man, just adapt GE players.
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Even guerillas? Well that’s not fair as my guerillas can’t even wear their pea dot uniforms. But anyways my only complain for body armor would probably just be the backside because is it really true that they have non-penetration in the back?
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Soviet armor is just a breastplate that goes over the chest and stomach, there is nothing covering the back, but ingame they still have -10% damage taken to the back even though its bare
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Well I also stop playing serious when I see a cheater, this has nothing to do with morale, but when I dont have a fair fight, I dont care for the outcome - that match doesn’t count anyways.
Bodyarmor is for me personally mostly annoying to deal with when playing low BR, but still, an unfair advantage is unfair, no matter how big it is.
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i don’t know if you think this is some epic comeback considering yes i adapted to all of that…others? I’ll chalk it up to them not having enough willpower to do such a thing.
i used m2 carbine and the browning instead of relying on rifleman squads
And soviet i used mostly RD 44 + federov mg premium
KT by waiting for it to expose its side turret with the 76 W (i frequently did this while everyone on the reddit was whining for pershing) and or alternatively bombing his ass with a p-47… i was whining about the degenerates in the plane though… that’s for sure.
And the assault rifles i’ve never been a fan of really the hyde was added after t20 which there is no reason to use 4 guys with the squad specific weapon instead of 9 with the T20 or really M2 carbine as it’s basically the assault rifle.
Amazing, you sir have deserved star to fridge.
Anyway, even such amazing chad adapter like yourself probably have figured out that the game is and has been going for red vs blue balance for quite sometime.
No more fancy exclusive things that actually does affect to balance.
And soviets should not be anykind of exception here.
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Clearly not, evidence being meteor, tiger 2 H, RD44 which is 100 rd lmg with zero dispersion only because it’s technically a rifle calibre(yes, this is soviets but it is still a direct imbalance) ,swords, THA and AVT 420.
And i remember why i had you ignored… don’t even know why i bothered opening your message let alone responding… back to the cellar you go.
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