Battle Rating 5 Anti-Tank Guns (Engineer Buildables)

Currently, Battle Rating 5 is the one place in the game where Anti-Tank guns, while a threat to Tanks, is only a minor one. At Battle Rating 1-4, most enemy tanks can be reliably penetrated by Anti-Tank guns of comparable strength to the guns they are mounted with.

To solve this issue, and improve counters to tank spawns at top battle ratings, I propose the addition of new Anti-Tank guns at BR 5 of calibers 88-105mm, and shell penetration at minimum 220mm standard. As these weapons are meant in-game to be a specialized means of countering enemy tanks as infantry, they have a limited quantity of 5 HE shells between ammunition refills, and their relatively low reload speed makes them sub-optimal at this role regardless. If a shell contains Explosive Filler, it is abbreviated as “EF” in the listed stats.

Here are the Anti-Tank weapons I am proposing:

USSR: 100mm M1944 BS-3

100mm BS-3

Ammunition:
20 x APHEBC BR-412B (224mm Pen, 100g EF)
5 x HE OF-412 (27mm Pen, 1.5kg EF)

Elevation: -5° to +45°
Traverse: -29° to +29° (58° total)
Reload: 6s

History: The 100mm BS-3 is the anti-tank field gun variant of the 100mm D-10 tank gun, mounted on the SU-100 tank destroyer and eventually T-54 and T-55 series of postwar tanks. It saw use in the Eastern Front in 1944 and 1945.

ALLIES: 105mm T8

Ammunition:
15 x APCBC T13 (256mm Pen, 181g EF)
5 x HVAP T29E2 (292mm Pen)
5 x HE T30E1 (27mm Pen, 1.5kg EF)

Elevation: -5° to +45°
Traverse: -30° to +30° (60° total)
Reload: 10s

History: The 105mm T8 was an anti-tank field gun prototype, the largest ever built by the United States in World War II. Only two prototypes of this weapon were ever built, of which one was a part of the Zebra Program: an initiative to test experimental weaponry in the European Theatre (this included the T26E1-1 Super Pershing). This is ballistically the same weapon that would be mounted on the M6A2E1 and T29 heavy tanks.

AXIS: 8.8cm PaK 43/41

Ammunition:
15 x APCBC Pzgr.39/43 (237mm Pen, 109g EF)
5 x APCR Pzgr.40/43 (279mm Pen)
5 x HE Sprgr.43 (19mm Pen, 1kg EF)

Elevation: -8° to +40°
Traverse: -30° to +30° (60° total)
Reload: 6s

History: The 8.8cm PaK 43/41 was Germany’s most numerous heavy anti-tank gun during World War II, and was the basis for the Tiger II’s 8.8cm KwK 43 L/71 gun. It was in service from 1943 to 1945, and saw combat in the Western Front, Eastern Front, and Italy.

JAPAN: 10.5cm Experimental High Power (Type 4)

Ammunition:
20 x APHE Type 2 (228mm Pen, 200g EF)
5 x HE Experimental (30mm Pen, 2.5kg EF)

Elevation: -5° to +45°
Traverse: -30° to +30° (60° total)
Reload: 7.5s

History: This was the prototype heavy Anti-Tank gun destined for the Ho-Ri tank destroyer. After the prior version of the weapon was deemed unsuitable, the barrel was lengthened to 65 calibers and mounted on a 10cm Type 92 Field Gun Carriage for testing in 1944. This weapon was deemed suitable, but was never mounted on the Ho-Ri prototypes that reached half-completion at the end of the war.

Would you like to see high-power AT guns added to BR 5?
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I do think most nations need a buffed or unique high br at gun. But I think they should be more br 4 level (around the efficacy of the 17 pounder). Thinking like a flak 37 (short 88), D44 (85), and the japanese type 92

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Hi, where do you get the photo and information like penetration value for this gun? The history you listed is different from what I saw from other site.

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Whoa, nice! This update’s way better than that Saboteur class garbage. Honestly, I’ve been wanting to replace the Soviet 17-pounder model or the Japanese 75mm AT gun for ages now. The best AT guns we have right now are only BR3 at most—they handle BR3-4 units easily, but they’re totally outmatched against BR5s. We need a proper high-tier AT gun. Also, they should buff them by adding more crew members, letting the whole crew rotate the gun in place, or making it move faster.

I even thought Japan was so broke they had to beg Germany for a good large-caliber AT gun. Then I checked historical pics and saw they had everything from 105mm to 155mm heavy howitzers—really opened my eyes. It also made it clear just how lazy DF is.

It’s not that the German army was lazy, but rather that your knowledge is too narrow. From the Pak 38 to the Pak 44 anti-tank guns, you should only know about the Pak 40, because you know nothing about other caliber German artillery, including anti-aircraft guns and howitzers.

I know all about the other ones, from 10.5cm K18, 12.8cm PaK 44 L/55, etc. Pak 43/41 was just the most numerous “heavy” anti-tank gun built and fielded.

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