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The difference in mag capacity is much greater than in rof. Especially if we are talking about full auto weapon that has potential to OHK.

We are not talking about smgs that need multiple shots to kill.

So yes, you are insulting my intelligence by deliberate manipulation.

You know exactly for what you were pushing. And comparison to smgs is pure BS.

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GO Play CS WW 2 games have vehicles they where essential part of the war.

Listen man, you set a standard with your argument that I was trying to make the weapons the same, because I didn’t mention the rates of fire in my comment. I refuted your argument by maintaining that standard against an example of two other weapons in the game. I guess I could have used the exact same argument by comparing the AVS and AVT, as well as the FG 42 I and FG 42 II.

I guess not making my mission statement with 2 paragraphs for each post is manipulation? I like to think I’ve been consistent with my arguments for historical reference (keep things like Cyclic Rate, Magazine Size, reload functionality, weight etc tied to historical accuracy, use game-specific modifiers such as Recoil, Dispersion, Reload speed, and circumstantially Damage to bring the weapon to a place of balance), but I could be corrected.

At this point, I’m just going to assume you’re rage baiting. I’m sorry that I can’t be perfect for you, and I hope you find inner peace.

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Okay.

Instead of saying

“more like Fedorov”,

I’ll make sure to say

“since the weapon fired a 6.5mm rifle cartridge and had a 20 or 25 round magazine capacity, we can look at a gun like that in the game, the USSR trees’ Fedorov Avtomat for reference. The Fedorov Avtomat, firing 6.5x50mm Arisaka, deals 13.9 damage, and the 6.5x52mm Carcano, with similar ballistics (bullet mass and muzzle velocity), should have similar or the same damage, somewhere around 13.9. Depending on current sources available, the short magazine should either have a 20 or 25 round capacity. However, these weapons do have some differences: The rate of fire in the Fedorov Avtomat is 600 rounds per minute. The Scotti Naval Rifle, however, is 800 rounds per minute. Because of this, we want to make sure the Scotti Naval Rifle has some sort of disadvantage to the Fedorov, by making sure one or more stats such as it’s recoil, dispersion, reload speed, or EDT (maybe I’m forgetting a couple) is worse than the Fedorov’s.”

This is essentially what you’re asking for. Twisting my words because I’m not elaborating to this level of detail is intellectually dishonest, and insulting to others who are reading this.

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Well I really doubt we know exactly the rate of fire of the weapon. This is something we cant test so we need to trust the book. But in real life this thing was LMG and it was used as LMG :

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So it was more similar to LMG then to Fedorov. Considering the year of its production of the The Scotti Naval Rifle I cant ignore the similarities with the SIG KE 7. So if I put it closer to a weapon its closest weapon for comparison really is SIG KE 7.

-Both the Scotti and the KE 7 use a combined gas and delayed blowback operation.

-They employ an under-barreled short-stroke gas piston to unlock the bolt, which is then followed by a blowback action.

-Both weapons fed from detachable box magazines, a feature common in automatic rifles of the period.

-A key visual similarity is their compact design, featuring a short, stubby barrel with a distinctive shroud that often included cooling fins. This was a common design choice to keep the weapons manageable as light automatic weapons.

So its really close to SIG KE7 its the closest comparison I can make to a WW 2 weapon. Even the magazine sizes where the same probably.

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we want a magazine size increase. Fairly sure there has been discussions that has proven the magazine was supposed to be double-stack and whoever modelled the rifle for Enlisted got it wrong and created a single-stack magazine

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germany is fantastic in the br3 lmg department, i would prefer something more unique than that

Well the version that they added to the game is not the LMG version

So this thing can be fitted to all roles since its pure paper prototype not the product that was actually made. So this thing can be like Fedorov it can be like FG it can be assaulter ,LMG or Rifleman squad weapon. Its really up to the imagination of the game developers since really can fit all roles. However the mags for sure are 20,25 ,40,50 same like SIG KE 7.


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I did some digging, and can confirm that I haven’t seen that specific version of the weapon off-paper either. There’s a possibility that it exists, but I’m skeptical.

It hasn’t stopped the developers from adding weapons such as the PPD and PPSh BraMit, which the models are based off of hypothetical photoshops, but it would be cool if historical references were shared by Gaijin more transparently when the weapons get announced.

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Well this one is similar. That specific version of the weapon was not what the designer was trying to make he was trying to make light machine gun that can shoot at aircrafts all the data suggests that. So the most close comparison is the SIG KE 7 more compact version.
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The end product have all the features of an LMG. Muzzle brakes or flash hider and Anti Air sight this things are so common on LMGs.

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not gonna lie - this gun is BR3 at best right now. whats with the rate of fire change?

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You know the reason and Solothurn Says hi

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This should have been Day 1 concern of the Cosmetics team when the decision was made to do the Merge.

Hmm we have campaign-specific skins for North Africa, aren’t they going to look cringe and laughable in Moscow?

Doesn’t take a genius to come up with a solution:


However I am strongly against sselling skins for Gold.

At least some of them, the more basic ones, should be available through Silver/Cosmetics orders/Challenges:

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Make the Scotti an LMG for BR 2 instead of a worthless BR 4 or 5 no one will use

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Well the one thing it has is good dispersion, which isn’t really what MGs are meant for.

That being said, a 15 rounder MG could deserve selectfire / assault rifle dispersion.

Reinstalled game just to write this comment:

Increase mag size to 25 rounds. Keep rof and lower recoil as it’s too wild. It would still be higher than Fedorov due that rof but it’s fine.

Alternatively lower rof but increase mag size to 30-35 rounds.

Right now this gun is even worse than already horrible Italian BP gun which is Breda PG CR (it also needs a buff).

It can’t compete vs Fedorov, it can’t compete vs AS-44 or STG44 in your arsenal. It’s also much worse than FG42/II. So what’s the point?

Can we have for once powerful BP gun for Germany? We haven’t got one since Conders (already power creeped by two tommies) as G43 Kurz got completely overnerfed.

So yeah German nations have zero good BP guns outside of Mkb35, Suomi and Pavesi m24 which all three are BR2. How about something great for BR5 and BR3?

Can Gaijin for once go beyond their obvious anti-german bias and look at the real weapon stats and make it fun and worth using instead of TT guns?

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Yea def the hidden posts are trully affecting you to insane levels

Yet i readed half of them but no one of it have anything ofensive

So anyways keep trowing flowers and parrots cuz i dont think you can do anytning else when someone have a ban anvil over your head ready to drop it :parrot::parrot::parrot::tulip::rose::fleur_de_lis::hibiscus:

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probably being reported as spam if anything lol

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Haha…i love how this weapon was rated for BR V even in its current un changed condition lol. Wow…

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