We know the several icons of the United Defense (UD) they’re known for the smgs used by partisans and such, but they always looked like a Thompson now what if they made a STE- rejected.
Well the idea wasn’t thrown out it was tested in the Aberdeen Proving Ground where it was rejected for one of many reasons (the report will be later)
Description: A experimental Submachine Gun made by United Defense it has a small magazine capacity but a high rate of fire while being compact light and including a bayonet.
The weapon

Stats
Base Upgraded
Rpm 1,150 - 1,320 rpm
Dmg 6.8 → 8.2
Reload 2.6 → 2.4
Div 76 → 68
Vert 32 → 28
Horz 17 → 15
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Recoil control 65%
Mag size 20 round Thompson mag
Ammo 45 ACP
Weight 3.6kg/7.95 bls
Velocity 265
Br2 or 3
Btw YES this gun can be converted between 45 ACP and 9mm para, they didn’t test the gun, because they found the gun to be so unwieldily they cut off testing so they never tested the 9mm conversion.
Said here
This gun is my personal favorite and I think it would be a very fun addition to the game.
Would you like this gun to be added?
How would like this to be obtained?
- Event
- BP
- Tech Tree
- Premium
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I don’t think this gun would ever be BR2 8.0 of damage with 1300 Rof don’t matter have only 25 rounds It would be at least BR3 and same would happen if It would use 9mm with more mag capacity It would get send to BR3 just because the Rof
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I concur Br 3 would work better. If the reload and recoil were good or the recoil was directional rather than random BR 3 all day. Dispersion would be another point to consider too.
Not really the UD M42 is also br2 plus it far better recoil than this
Also I made a mistake and planning to change it up for a .45 acp gun but stopped my self the last second
Plus the owen is generally have a terrible recoil pattern despite it having roughly the same recoil stats they’re gonna be equally bad I gave is a %65 recoil control for a reason it’s still bad but it’s not stinky
It was an idea that was scrapped the last minute and forgot to change now it’s changed to what a 45 supposed to be
Update I realized I was wrong it instead used Thompson smg magazines the 25 round number came from the UD-M42 magazine
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Well that’s a positive (30 rounds that it). Also a bad thing if you wanted to dual wield them now that I think about it.