An idea to fix the body armour/reinforced helmets problem once and for all

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This suggestion won’t be very long, but it might interest you, and fix the body armour issue once and for all.

First, when body armour was first introduced, it was only for the soviets, with proper body armour, and the germans, with their helmets reinforced with the stirnpanzer, which is an additional armour plate on the helmet.

There were already problems because these two armour pieces were protecting different parts of the body, so the balancing wasn’t great.

Second, body armour wasn’t widespread during WW2, so seing entire team of soviet soldiers wearing this is really far from realistic, and the german stirnpanzer was a german armour piece from WW1, so not really used at all during WW2.

Now, the body armour/reinforced helmets have been made into cosmetics that can be purchased by everyone, and these cosmetics also boost your vitality/reduce incoming damage.

But cosmetics aren’t supposed to increase your stats !

And that is the problem.

What does body armour/reinforced helmets exactly do ingmae exactly ? They boost your vitality/reduce incoming damage.

And I came up with an idea that might satisfy people :

Make the body armour/reinforced helmets cosmetics only available to buy/equip on the soldiers where the perk +35% vitality (the one that costs 16 perk points) has been chosen, and make these armour parts cosmetics only : no buff to your health/vitality and no reduction of incoming damage.

This way, choosing to wear this type of cosmetics would be logical, because the soldiers wearing them would then be “kind of” armoured, because the body armour/reinforced helmets would represent the +35% vitality perk that you have chosen for your soldier, and as a result, your soldier will be able to take more damage, because the +35% vitality perk is your additional armour.

And it would make more sense and be more realistic because not every soldier in a game would be wearing body armour/reinforced helmets, because I don’t think that every player chooses this perk for all their soldiers, and you just can’t choose this perk for some soldiers because they don’t have the 16 points required to get this perk.

So what do you think ? Feel free to tell me what you think if this suggestion. Your votes and likes give more visibility to this topic.

Thanks ! :slightly_smiling_face:

Edit: Please note that you wouldn’t lose the body armour/reinforced helmets cosmetics you’ve purchased for the soldiers that don’t have the +35% vitality perk, they would just go back to your inventory in the same way when you put your soldiers in the reserve. But in this case only the soldiers with the perk could equip these cosmetics, you wouldn’t lose anything, they would still be in your inventory.

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Says who?

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I do.

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I prefer to see body armor limited only for engee

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Lie.

Based.

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The cosmetics thing makes sense, plus Japan should have armor too, especially since they were more active in using it in China. The biggest problem with armor is especially at low BRs; SMGs simply don’t do enough damage. To take down an enemy, you might need at least 5 to 7 rounds depending on the distance, and against a squad of 7 or 9, that means you’re dead by the time you reload. I don’t see helmets as that problematic since most target the torso, and if they’re going to continue with cosmetics that offer advantages, they should add gloves that slightly improve weapon control.

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Well, the already existing +35% vitality perk would basically be the armour, whether you choose to equip those body armour/reinforced helmets cosmetics or not wouldn’t change anything to your stats.

Cosmetics should just be cosmetics, and I think my suggestion would make some sense regarding soldiers with the extra vitality perk, compared to those who don’t have this perk, and can’t equip these body armour/reinforced helmets cosmetics as a result.

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I don’t really know for the stirnpanzer. I just remember that when we got the Berlin campaign, we had pre-order squads with the PPD-40 DSZ for the soviets with body armour on squad members, and the MP 40/I for the germans with reinforced helmets (stirnpanzer) on squad members.

I have been absent a few months and came back to the game more than a month ago, and I saw that you could now equip the body armour cosmetics on all your soviet soldiers, so I assumed they did the same with the reinforced helmets cosmetics for the germans.

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Because I spent all my points on the armour.

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No, the reinforced helmets are only available to one squad in the game - the Assault Engineers from the old event.

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Could we please agree with this one right here?

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Just continue doing what you are doing and spam it in every post whenever possible.

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Technically all Paratroopers have the same effective extra survivability.

13.5 HP should be the absolute maximum, every little extra survivability messes with balance.

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Same for me.
I want to be able to resell those them if they nerfed body armor.
(And, in fact, I want the simple hability to resell outfit)

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Obviously you wouldn’t lose the things you’ve purchased, they would just go back to your inventory in the same way when you put your soldiers in the reserve. But in this case only the soldiers with the perk could equip these cosmetics, you wouldn’t lose anything, they would still be in your inventory.

But indeed, it might be nice to add the option to resell cosmetics, if you can resell weapons and soldiers, then why couldn’t you resell these cosmetics ?

Although I find this situation a bit ironic tbh, because of the number of people who complained a while ago that they had so much cosmetic orders that they didn’t know what to do with these, and with all the jokes about the cosmetic orders being worthless, lol.

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About cosmetic resell:
In my case, I’ve too many useless things since the merge and since dev’ give us some better options, so I just want to ‘’ clear my inventory" .
Then, if they décide to nerf or limit body armor for soviets… I want to resell them in order to replace them by the correct uniform.

About the "body armor problème ", I think, the only good solution should be: limit them only for Russian’s engee .

(I’ve actually 1114 apparence orders and…1953 callsign… :joy:)

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idc abt body armor anymore at this point devs proved it wont ever be changed

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I think I was at around 2000 appearance orders until recently, maybe more, maybe less. This number has decreased recently because I went on a buying spree, but it is still quite high.

For the callsign orders, well, I don’t know how much I have, lol, I never really paid attention to these. I have never changed my soldiers names, like, ever. I just don’t feel the need to do it, and I have zero idea how I would call them, lol. I don’t remember if the callsign orders are the ones used when you want to change your soldiers’nationality ? If it’s the case, I might have spent one or two orders just to see how the nationality change worked. That’s it.

In my suggestion for the body armour removed from the soldiers who don’t have the +35% vitality perk, I thought it was obvious that these cosmetic parts would just be sent to your inventory, just like when you put your soldiers in the reserve, but that’s my suggestion, so of course I know how this would work, not everybody is supposed to know exactly how it would work. I will try to edit my first post later to add this.

For the cosmetic parts resell, well, that’s another suggestion, but I guess it would be welcome, if you can buy as much weapons, equipments and soldiers (in the limit of your reserve capacity of course), and then resell all of these whenever you want, then why couldn’t you resell the cosmetics you equip on your soldiers ? Just like the other elements I’ve mentioned, it would be logical because you can buy as much cosmetics as you want and you equip them on your soldiers. I just don’t feel personally that this should be a priority, because I’m pretty sure many players are probably in the same case of having too much appearance orders and not knowing what to do with these, lol.

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Can I have some apparence orders, please :frowning:

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how does that make any sense… an assaulter would definitely like body armor… and as you can see from these historical photos all of these guys are using either ppsh or some type of DP… but i can’t tell what the guy on right is holding in third pic so.

Also engis aren’t supposed to be assaulters… why would you want body armor on a class you’d initially use to build reinforcements or rally points is beyond me.

But oh wait it isn’t supposed to be logical… just a way for you to see it less.

Once again proving the fact you guys are blowing it out of the water and making unreasonable suggestions only to satisfy your cries.

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