There’s the Razorback you can use, I’m not sure if it’s the same squad…
Then again thanks to multiple legacy squads I can field 2 P47 in my lineup if I want! (Sure the Razorback use m8 rockets, but still a solid plane)
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yea i just check. Completely forgot about it since my squad list is a dam mess.
I will make a topic about it today since im gonna “clean up” some stuff
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I’d rather believe that you’re mentally competent, and that you’re relying on hyperboly to get across your argument.
But if you’d rather dismiss reality, that’s fine… I was being charitable…
Returning legacy squads will help with subfaction representation, this is just true… you can argue by how much, and if you think there are (in your view) better ways. But you can’t say it “doesn’t solve anything”, this is flat out incorrect, or a lie.
Choose which one.
You missunderstood the argument.
I explain why there wasn’t any, I didn’t create a rule. If during the pre-merge years there were freely earnable Italian gear, then no doubt there would have been a squad to match it too.
I don’t see a flaw with this reasoning.
Glad you agree that their status as “legacy” squads is insignificant… lets return them, then.
Wow, you repeated what I said, after calling it nonsense…
Oh, that aren’t complete oversights that are yet to be looked into…?
Like how some British and German tech tree squads have paratrooper cosmetics, but only in one campaign?
Or the white German pants that are only available on some squads, and that we’re all patiently waiting to be made universal…?
I am sure the devs know exactly what they’re doing, and haven’t just forgotten them in the spaghetti code or are just very low down on the priority list…
Call me a Communist… I know you’re itching to do it… Go on, you have my blessing.
It’s not at all that I have a coherent and justifiable position, that someone could recognize even if they disagreed with the implementation… no, I have to be a hypocrite and irrational.
Of course, the Sith in you would rather think along absolutist lines, and pretend that I object to all exlusivity, in any situation.
Not at all that I just happen to have a differing opinion as to what is valuable exclusivity, God no, I just want everything to be available to anyone, at any time, with zero investment of anything. Seize the means of digital production, comrade!
I accept your surrender, comrade.
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No. This is not the right way to do it… there are way too many to make it even acceptable for those who want them. Unless it’s like 25k for a guaranteed squad i guess.
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The silver chests really don’t need even more stuff cluttering them. I think the best way to implement legacy squads would be to have them purchasable with research points after completing the tech tree the squad belongs to
id say this is a better way to do it
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hell no, as usual saying srupid things, remember there is one panzer III M from normandy who stay in br 2 as example who could be fair in new player hands
That one is still obtainable
That’s exactly what I’m saying. You’re not interested in the actual problem; what bothers you is exclusivity.
But that’s not my problem. Exclusivity is a major aspect of the vast majority of live service games.
If you interpret the fact that I don’t want to waste my time reading and responding to your extremely long posts full of hypocrisy, a lack of understanding of live service games, and some naive pseudo-communist mindset… as surrendering. I’ll leave you to your delusions.
You understood that this sentence was ironic, right…?
What’s that about me “not being interested in the actual problem”, though? What’s that supposed to mean? Are you incapable of the marginal charitability of accepting that I, the Forum’s nr. 1 Commonwealth advocate, do in fact care about subfaction viability?
Again, you lack utter sympathy for any position that isn’t your own. Of course any angle that isn’t in line with yours is inherently illogical, hypocritical and nonsesical under such a mindset. But, it is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
You should try it sometime.
No, of course not, I’m just a Communist.
Indeed. A good question of game design. And, even if you refuse to believe it, I fully agree that it’s not just a part of live-service games, but is actually good and healthy to include within such a game.
I know you just think I’m a Communist, though, so I’m probably just subverting your position to bring forth the revolution…
But, now we’re back at the question; “what exclusivity is actually worth keeping?”
That’s a deeper question than you give it credit for.
But you’re not ready to have that conversation…
Oh, this was just bait to get you back in here. It worked obviously, jolly good.
Now I’d quite like for you to explain what my supposed hypocrisy is…? I think that the one thing I can be reliably accused of is “consistency” - at least in stances of game design - many of my beliefs/wants with the game, especially the ones I am the loudest about, can be traced back quite far actually…
If you’re going to fall back to my supposed “gaslighting” of you… well, there’s a very good reason for why you probably haven’t chosen to respond to my response on that here…
You can’t admit that your hyperboly is wrong… that’s half of your argument just… gone…
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Absolutely not.
Germany has more legacy squads because it was present in more campaigns.
The devs should add MORE squads to all nations for build variety instead of touching legacy stuff.
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Does it seem to you like I’m still having a meaningful discussion with you? Okay, lol.
I already told you:
Everything you’ve said just confirms that you couldn’t care less about the real issue with sub-factions and their squads.
You have a problem with exclusivity. And you’re unwilling to respect the time people invested in grinding MP40s five times over, etc.
You simply want to throw that time away, devalue it, without veteran players getting anything in return.
In short, you refuse to respect the players who supported this project by investing their time in it long before you started playing.
And you justify all of this with some made-up problem that could easily be solved in X other ways without robbing veteran players of their unique stuff.
If you don’t feel the need to respect them, I don’t feel the need to respect you. I don’t see the point in discussing this with you.
If you want to bait me into further responses, go ahead. But there really won’t be any meaningful discussion coming out of this.
And just so you know, those squads didn’t become legacy overnight.
It had been known for at least six months in advance that a large number of squads were going to be changed to legacy squads. It was also made clear several times that they would never be available again after that.
And because of that announcement, a lot of people started grinding just to get them.
It’s not just that you don’t respect veteran players, you’re also trying to force the developers into breaking their own word.
We could have a meaningful discussion about what can be respected or compensated. Of what is worth returning, and in what manner. Of what is good for the health of the game, and what are easier things to do from a developmental standpoint.
There’s a huge discussion to be had, with many factors to consider.
You’ve just assumed my position, adopted a absolutist viewpoint that’s at times incorrect and, and not condusive to a open, honest, and productive discussion.
I remember you telling me that dogma was a bad thing…
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Could say you dont need them either since we dont have stalingrad campaign anymore
Specifically you ? Or is there someone else
I’d quite like to read where the developers promised to never return legacy squads…
Closest thing I've found is this:
Here, the players were indeed adviced to grind before the merge happened. But, I notice a peculiar detail…
- It specifically marks out weapons and vehicles as unique and interesting, not the squads.
Persumably because, again, there is nothing special about the legacy squads, except that they’re (now) legacy. Where as the weapons and vehicles that are actually unique in their function and appearance, not just status. Clearly, that is being more valued here.
It’s also important to take into consideration that the purpose of the merge was to ease matchmaking, solve some balancing issues, and streamline progression… what squads got into the tech tree was arbitrarily chosen, to fit this new mold, not the other way around. Now that squad, line-up, and preset management has been greatly worked and improved upon (making owning a multitude of squads less of a hassle), and that the selling of legacy squad was recently removed as an option, one does wonder where the grand design is going…
The door is most certainly open.
And… well, the statement is a far cry from a promise of no return or access, ever… especially when the squads themselves are bairly mentioned…
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You don’t mean the profit is just gold coins, do you? That feels like a bad deal. And there are so many of them. If you wanted to buy them all, it would probably cost hundreds of dollars.
I want to use more italian, british and SS squads… majority of those are from pre merge.
So, wrong… and if not? Why haven’t they added any italian or brit event squads.
Also iconic and recognizable squads such as the 101st and 82nd airborne are from pre merge… anyone who has any knowledge of ww2 would recognize those and go “aww cool!”
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So what? I am not against it.
I think we can meet in the middle by acknowledging you have an advantage over those without them and so we should remove them entirely to put everyone on a level playing field