of course there is
What if I want to have my berettas used by actual italians? the only italian assaulter squad is legacy
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Bringing back legacy squads doesn’t solve anything. There are plenty of classes that don’t have their own British/Italian squads, even if we take all legacy squads into account.
So your argument is completely off the mark. And it only addresses one specific scenario
Instead, the developers should create new Italian and British squads for all classes.
And there’s no reason to take away the exclusivity of legacy squads from veterans, who invested a lot of time to earn them. Not just a few silvers.
Plus, there are plenty of historical divisions that could be used instead.
It’s that simple.
By pushing this half baked “solution”, you’re effectively just disrespecting all veteran players who value exclusivity.
Cool it with the absolutist statements, you know this is incorrect.
If you stood back and looked at it… you’ll realize the obvious reason why this is the case:
There wasn’t, and still isn’t, any corresponding tech tree / silver equipment in game to outfit the missing squads.
No British or Italian trucks, no Italian AT weapons, no Italian mortars, no Italian attacker aircraft. Of course they don’t have squads for gear they don’t and didn’t have.
This is no reason to hold back all the other squads, which are very much needed.
Their exclusivity is entierly accidental and arbitrary, whatever got a place in the post-merge tech tree stayed, the rest became unobtainable. There isn’t some grand design, any legacy squad could have been in the place of a tech tree one.
There is nothing special about these squads, except that they’re no longer available.
There are plenty of historical divisions that are waiting to be reused.
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Plot twist, unwise players could waste them for a paltry 10k silver…
If gaijin ever sells them for silver they will be 100k minimum (if not 1,000k) 
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Definitely.
For the joy of having multiple presets. Moreover, once the “blue” tech tree is done for those, they’re fully leveled as the “green” and “red” are shared with basic squads. So not that long.
More squads is a must. I feel the need especially with Japan that came later and have less squads… can’t make as many funny presets, or have powerful air force, unlike other factions which can field multiple top tier vehicles.
Do Japan even have legacy squad tho? i mean i feel like i dont remember any of them.
Anyway i still want to change my P47 since i want to use it on other squad and not my legacy one. (I literally cant change it)
Add a BP skin i guess idk something to free my P47
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I’m a vétéran , like you. But I’m agree with that: giving some old legacy squads in loot boxes for new players isn’t a bad idea.
(No Stalingrad’s squads , but the others )
They don’t…
It’s why I feel they are lacking, as I compare them with the other 3 for which I have all squads, and a lot of preset liberties, as well as lineup.
For example, for axis I can field 2 King tigers (one is the P). AND a regular tiger. If I want.
Japan has no such luxury…
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What kind of nonsense was that? Don’t try to imply that I don’t truly believe what I’m saying.
On the contrary, you’re the one who should stop gaslighting people.
You don’t need anything like that. They could be placed as secondary purchases to already existing squads.
You’ve come up with some completely made-up rule, and now you’re trying to use it as an argument.
There are plenty of other ways to implement squads for subfactions.
Well… That doesn’t matter at all. You’re just trying to make it seem like it has some kind of significance.
Well, that’s probably the biggest nonsense you’ve said so far.
- They represent exclusive divisions that you can no longer obtain.
- Some of them have special customization options in certain campaigns.
I like how you’re just pushing this deliberate fallacy that those squads aren’t special in any way. But even so, you refuse at all costs to leave them exclusively for veterans, even though if post-merge players would get access to their counterparts, just being different divisions, etc.
This perfectly illustrates your hypocrisy. And your clear intention to take away exclusive content from people.
And just for your information, I do not own all legacy squads. Yet I respect the exclusivity of these squads. And I definitely don’t want to take it away from people who’ve earned them through hard work.
PS I’m not going to continue this discussion with you. It’s perfectly clear that you have a problem with exclusivity.
fair i guess
I hope one day i can #freemyP-47D-28 by having a BP vehicle or something.
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There’s the Razorback you can use, I’m not sure if it’s the same squad…
Then again thanks to multiple legacy squads I can field 2 P47 in my lineup if I want! (Sure the Razorback use m8 rockets, but still a solid plane)
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yea i just check. Completely forgot about it since my squad list is a dam mess.
I will make a topic about it today since im gonna “clean up” some stuff
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I’d rather believe that you’re mentally competent, and that you’re relying on hyperboly to get across your argument.
But if you’d rather dismiss reality, that’s fine… I was being charitable…
Returning legacy squads will help with subfaction representation, this is just true… you can argue by how much, and if you think there are (in your view) better ways. But you can’t say it “doesn’t solve anything”, this is flat out incorrect, or a lie.
Choose which one.
You missunderstood the argument.
I explain why there wasn’t any, I didn’t create a rule. If during the pre-merge years there were freely earnable Italian gear, then no doubt there would have been a squad to match it too.
I don’t see a flaw with this reasoning.
Glad you agree that their status as “legacy” squads is insignificant… lets return them, then.
Wow, you repeated what I said, after calling it nonsense…
Oh, that aren’t complete oversights that are yet to be looked into…?
Like how some British and German tech tree squads have paratrooper cosmetics, but only in one campaign?
Or the white German pants that are only available on some squads, and that we’re all patiently waiting to be made universal…?
I am sure the devs know exactly what they’re doing, and haven’t just forgotten them in the spaghetti code or are just very low down on the priority list…
Call me a Communist… I know you’re itching to do it… Go on, you have my blessing.
It’s not at all that I have a coherent and justifiable position, that someone could recognize even if they disagreed with the implementation… no, I have to be a hypocrite and irrational.
Of course, the Sith in you would rather think along absolutist lines, and pretend that I object to all exlusivity, in any situation.
Not at all that I just happen to have a differing opinion as to what is valuable exclusivity, God no, I just want everything to be available to anyone, at any time, with zero investment of anything. Seize the means of digital production, comrade!
I accept your surrender, comrade.
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No. This is not the right way to do it… there are way too many to make it even acceptable for those who want them. Unless it’s like 25k for a guaranteed squad i guess.
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The silver chests really don’t need even more stuff cluttering them. I think the best way to implement legacy squads would be to have them purchasable with research points after completing the tech tree the squad belongs to
id say this is a better way to do it
hell no, as usual saying srupid things, remember there is one panzer III M from normandy who stay in br 2 as example who could be fair in new player hands
That one is still obtainable
That’s exactly what I’m saying. You’re not interested in the actual problem; what bothers you is exclusivity.
But that’s not my problem. Exclusivity is a major aspect of the vast majority of live service games.
If you interpret the fact that I don’t want to waste my time reading and responding to your extremely long posts full of hypocrisy, a lack of understanding of live service games, and some naive pseudo-communist mindset… as surrendering. I’ll leave you to your delusions.
You understood that this sentence was ironic, right…?
What’s that about me “not being interested in the actual problem”, though? What’s that supposed to mean? Are you incapable of the marginal charitability of accepting that I, the Forum’s nr. 1 Commonwealth advocate, do in fact care about subfaction viability?
Again, you lack utter sympathy for any position that isn’t your own. Of course any angle that isn’t in line with yours is inherently illogical, hypocritical and nonsesical under such a mindset. But, it is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
You should try it sometime.
No, of course not, I’m just a Communist.
Indeed. A good question of game design. And, even if you refuse to believe it, I fully agree that it’s not just a part of live-service games, but is actually good and healthy to include within such a game.
I know you just think I’m a Communist, though, so I’m probably just subverting your position to bring forth the revolution…
But, now we’re back at the question; “what exclusivity is actually worth keeping?”
That’s a deeper question than you give it credit for.
But you’re not ready to have that conversation…
Oh, this was just bait to get you back in here. It worked obviously, jolly good.
Now I’d quite like for you to explain what my supposed hypocrisy is…? I think that the one thing I can be reliably accused of is “consistency” - at least in stances of game design - many of my beliefs/wants with the game, especially the ones I am the loudest about, can be traced back quite far actually…
If you’re going to fall back to my supposed “gaslighting” of you… well, there’s a very good reason for why you probably haven’t chosen to respond to my response on that here…
You can’t admit that your hyperboly is wrong… that’s half of your argument just… gone…