Add Browning Hi-power pistols to the German tech tree as Pistole 640(b)

  • Yes, allow Germany to freely purchase Browning Hi-powers
  • Yes, but as an event gun
  • No, do not do this
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During German occupation of Belgium, the FN factory that produced Browning Hi-power pistols was seized and used to produce pistols for the German military. According to this source over 300,000 Browning Hi-powers were produced for the needs of the German military under the designation Pistole 640(b)

Due to the sheer number of Hi-power pistols produced in occupied Belgium, I believe this would make perfect sense to be available in the German tech tree.

It would provide an alternative to the Mauser C96 pistol for those who dislike the sights on C96. While Germany does not need more pistols, I believe this should be added for historical accuracy and immersion as Germany utilized a large amount of Hi-power pistols during the war.

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Btw, for people wondering, that’s about double of the Hi-Power production of Canada during WW2, which is the source of the pistols for the Allies (not counting very brief Belgian production after liberation, whilst the war was still going, but that’s such a small and insignificant supply compared to Canadian production).

If the Allies can have this as a standard pistol, then Germany definately should.

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Yes, ironically I am fairly sure Germany used MORE hi-powers in WW2 than all of the Allies combined due to them seizing the FN factories

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There’s definitely some other handgun that could be added instead of lazy copypaste.

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It’s only lazy if there’s no justification for it.

There is in this case.

I don’t know about you, but I quite like having WW2 guns in appropriate hands. It’s a WW2 game, that’s not a unreasonable expectation from this game.

Certainly a simple introduction too, the pistol is already in the game.


If we are going to have copy-pastes… and by Jove is that’s going to continue, however much anyone prefers not to, at least let the copy-pastes make sense!

Better a Pistole 640(b) than a imagined KE7.

Copy-pastes for Soviets (C96) but not for Germany, otherwise.

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Yes but only if the Mauser c96 is nerfed be having a real clip reload.

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we already have the nickel variant for the germans ( pretty rare too. and, well, luckily for my soldier, he ain’t allergic to it like i am. but i digress )

while it was more used by the germans, germany out of all factions has already a vaste choice of pistols.
and since it’s already an event weapon, imo no need for more.

but, not opposed to either.

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No, there’s not. I have no clue why Germany should have copypasted pistol based on American design in their tech tree.

Particularly when it is not needed at all in terms of balance. Even more so when the other faction has it in its tech tree.

I value faction integrity, not lazy copypaste that’s only undermining that integrity.

It’s enough that the Soviet tree is full of similar nonsense. Which, in my opinion, should have been changed to legacy content - following the merge.


Not to mention this has already been suggested. And obviously rejected. This is a duplicitous suggestion.

This has nothing to do with tech tree inclusions.

Germany had way more Hi-Powers than the Allies, therefor Germany should have access to Hi-Powers.

It’s not rocket science.


That’s fair enough though, that it might be a duplicate.

However, your claim that it’s “obviously rejected” is false. Things take time, just because something doesn’t come out the very next major update that doesn’t mean it never will.

Have you forgotten about the white pants for Germany…? You were very active on the subject, it was forwarded and we were informed by helpers (AFAIR) that it would come in the future.

Has that also been “obviously rejected”…?

Don’t read into things that aren’t there.

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You are aware that the US never used Hi-Powers during WW2, right…?

Outside of some OSS use in Europe, that is, but they’re not representative of the armed forces, and only ever used because they wanted supply compatability with the British…

It wasn’t even officially adopted, AFAIK…


I could even correct you further, and state that the final development took place (after John Brownings death) in Belgium by Dieudonné Saive…

So, it being a “American design” is also disputable.

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And many of those were lend-leased to China so the number that saw use with US or Commonwealth troops were significantly lower.

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Whats always with lazy copy+paste?
If it is wanted by people, it doesnt matter, especially since it doesnt offend the 1% of whales that want to feel special with the standard Browning already being TT.

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Hmm Wouldnt make it fitting though since Allies technically include Nationalists with the event and premium squads :thinking:

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Yeah…

Like, KE7 = obviously bad.

But a German Hi-Power is just common sense…

I really want to give them to my pilots and paratroopers… Many of the contracts were for the Luftwaffe.

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Because, unlike the US, Germany actually used the Browning Hi-Power during WW2. Also it’s a Belgian Gun. The gun was first commissioned by FN Herstal, finished by their people after Browning died and produced by FN. There’s not a whole lot of it that’s actually American.

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I dont know the whole Chinese subfactions are just off. Why Browning and no Mauser C96 for example?
Plus, Devs seem to be throwing Chinese equipment around randomly, I cant see any system in how weapons or uniforms would be implemented.

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yes, I am aware Germany has plenty of variety with pistols, I want this included for the sake of immersion and historical accuracy

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If multiple factions used the same gun, I want to know what you’re supposed to do. Remodel the gun from scratch for reasons?

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Well, we have Mauser C96 bolo for both Soviets and Axis, yet I dont see the same people complain about it…

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Son, every German weapon is used by other factions in this game.

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