A20 and the 500lb bombs, if its intended gameplay, it isnt any fun

Seriously, its just game breaking. I quit tonight before even doing my battlepass objectives.

The infantry stuff and tanks is crazy good, but if there is a counter to constantly having your team wiped by 500lb bombs, I haven’t seen it used.

I saw some of my guys trying to chase it down with fighters, but they didn’t seem to be bothering the A20.

Its your game and you steer it any direction you want, but if this is what we should expect, I guess Im out. Kinda upsetting as the rest of the game is hella fun, at least you feel you can fight back. I dont want to play war thunder, I dont think someone should have to take to the skies to stop one guy, and then even if they manage to kill him, another A20 just spawns in. So someone has to be constantly up in the skies, and it needs to be someone good so the rest of us can enjoy the ground stuff playing enlisted, not war thunder.

Its broken, and not fun

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Whats your stance on the German 250 kg bombs that are even more powerful than the A 20s?

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Big bombs are really strong and I would almost prefer they take more high number of smaller bomb payloads than have the huge bombs that can wipe 20 people at once. Or maybe they just need to tune the damage of large bombs more. It’s pretty hard to say.

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I feel they overtuned the defense on the airplanes. There is nothing atm that can counter them, not even planes anymore. Something happend with the armor on them that they seem nearly invincible.

When you could shoot them down with regular ground weapons it felt like you could do something against them. At least hurt them back.

Right now im 100% with you, getting bombed without counterplay is not fun.

Bro play Allies at least for three games and you will hate Luftwaffe even more than some A20.

Oh you are German only player then :shushing_face:

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the same, if thats happening to you , im with you brother, I have planes, maybe the one youre talking about, dunno, dont use em,

I play both US and Germany on normandy.

If you think US CAS is strong due to A-20, wait until you see germans have CAS on EVERYTHING.

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Honestly, the best balance imo is to change 500 lb bombs to 250 lb bombs on the A20. Give the Bf110 different rockets with a smaller explosive radius. Change the Bf109 and Ju 188 from carrying SC250s to SC 100s

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or keep everything with the planes like it is untill the playerbase has leanred that every bobmer is a oneway ticket if the own team has a fighter up who cares. Yes the damage model was buffed and that was ncessary but it was mayb a bit to much. Hell a Beta is meant for tuning such things.

I would totally apprechiate if they would buff the turnrate of the Flaks by ~30% and give them 20 round per mag since the model has the 20 shot magazine on it.

And as a US palyer in normandy you are even lucky because you can have a P-51 and a A-20 up at the same time. So if they get bombed by the germans relentlessly it’s due pure incompetence.
I’m shocked how often a G-6 or P-38 ignore me when I’m in a bomber and instead rtb to refill their rockets/bomb. Those players are to blame not the planes.

Flak is also very seldomly used. That is somehow understandable because that thing needs a buff to be a more serious threat to planes and also a bonus to the XPs fom shot down planes as an incentive to sty on that flak instead of gathering some infatry kills on the frontline.

So imo: Pilots who care about shooting down other planes instead of being mindlessly focused on ground pounding and a buff to the Flak and everything is fine.

Plane spam is crazy, I agree with this thread.

I can shoot them down - with flak on engie squad or a fighter, but it’s super hard. And sometimes you can’t even find them.

Planes are annoying, and most of the time nobody counters them.

Would love to see larger bomb nerf.

the only thing that really pisses me off about large bombs dropped from planes is they completely demolish every fortification even if their inside a building other then the hedgehogs… people just go around dropping the biggest fuckin bomb on common spawn point buildings to break the spawnpoints and any sandbags in the vicinity…

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its a player and team problem really not the plane itself, you can build aa or multiple aa even not on obj and just on spawn, hell your team can build multiple AA in the map if they “WANT” to deal with planes, not to mention fighter planes that can absolutely wreck it, its just really a matter of “WANT” to deal with it or just ignore it

then they are doing the job properly I mean buildings are supposed to be destroyed by bombs not just be a invulnerable object

Whereaboo complaining that the allies get somethign that is ALMOST as good as somethign the germans get? :thinking:

Quelle surprise! :confused:

Germans get 500 KILO bombs - so no, stop whining.

The 110 has no alternative rockets that it carried - but the allies don’t even get the various historical loads they could carry.

Did I say “no, stop whining” already? Oh yes I did - well it bears repeating! :stuck_out_tongue:

Just what we need - more rubbish history as “balance”…

NOT!

How is what I suggested “rubbish history” when those are actual loads carried by these planes?

Be delighted to find some sources to support your contention - but I can’t.

110G has no different rockets - you get the 21cm or none.

my books here (all 1970’s 80’s) say 109’s did not carry 100kg bombs - they carried a 250 on the centerline and/or 4 x 50’s in a center line rack - and/or up to 4 50’s under the wings. Ju-188 likewise - multiple 50’s, then 250’s and bigger - never carried 100’s.

there’s nothing on the 'net about them carrying SC100’s - indeed to bomb itself is pretty hard to find an y info on.

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the AA guns currently are kind of crap… they shoot way too slow and have basically no ammo… there needs to be a real AA turret that shoots faster then 2 bulelts per second like the almighty oerlikon

or the 20mm flak guns

or the m45 quadmount

Okay I thought for some reason that they did carry those payloads. But I couldn’t find anything either. I guess the other option then would be to “nerf” the bombs explosion radius to balance them then.

I don’t know about all of this, it really feels like trying to storm the beaches at Normandy though I suppose. I’m level 1-2 with 3 squads and the level 20’s with maxed out squads and radio guys with big machine guns are already there waiting for me and laugh as I try to hide in the grass with my single shot and pick off stragglers to try and get a perk point that makes me jump higher.

oof