If we compare the Gewehr 41 to other semi-automatic rifles at BR 3, it has a very slow reload, and below-average damage. These stats combine to make a very under-performing rifle at it’s battle rating.
My suggestion is to buff the Gewehr 41’s damage from 14.4 to 15.3, and the full reload speed from 4.8 to 3.4 seconds. This would place it’s performance to roughly equal to the M1941 Johnson, which has slightly worse recoil but better bullet velocity.
Would you like to see the Gewehr 41’s Damage and Reload Speed Buffed?
This would be a good start for sure. The G41 is easily the worst br3 semi auto and is painful to use, especially against body armor.
I do think to achieve better balance the SVT-38 should be changed to use clips rather than magazine reloads as well (which is more realistic as many have pointed out), but nonetheless this would be a good start.
A more modest increase is warranted. Damage to 15.3, yes, but reload to decreased to 4.0.
The issue here is that the SVT-38 is overpeforming, by a massive margin, and should be nerfed by making it reload through mosin clips instead. The Johnson is also overperforming, it used to be BR IV, time to adjust the reload of that one, too.
I feel like 4.0 should be the bog-standard for dual-clip reloads (same as the Type 4 rifle), with rifles famed for their smooth operation (like the Lee-Enfields) or because of mechanical properties (side-loaded Johnson), gets slightly (one to two tenths of a point) faster, just to be different and pay a minor homage to reality.
Anything noticeably faster than 4.0 and the animations start looking really wonky. The Johnson, just from a animation standpoint, is unreasonably fast. I don’t want that repeated, I want that fixed.
Oh, and the damage on the SVT-38 is the same as the current G41, not 15.3.
Both the G-41 and the SVT-38 should have their damage buffed to the same standard rifle level, and have their reloads brought to the 4.0 mark, best solution in my humble opinion.
All this is to say though: I agree with the premise, disagree with the implementation.
Due to body armor the G41 should be higher. The fact that it cannot insta down people with certain cosmetics is a significant nerf to it, and increasing that would make it more viable. Also, since the SVT-38 currently handles so much better, then getting the same range is pretty silly. Maybe if the SVT was clip fed but it isn’t now, so this is a good start.
I don’t disagree but I think faster reloads are needed for semi autos to keep up with the smg spam meta. Slower reloads could maybe work if they got damage buffs across the board though.
I understand your disagreements but I don’t think avoiding small changes in favor of a comprehensive rework is necessarily a good idea, at least in practice. Usually changes work by small, individual ideas forwarded to helpers. Bit silly but that’s unfortunately how it is.
This type of balancing issue is why body armor reducing damage should be removed, it needs to be cosmetic only. Working balance around it is stupid. Just leads to bandaid workarounds that end up throwing everything off.
Easiest win for balance. It’s a unrealistically acting piece of cosmetic (cosmetics should not apply effects upon gameplay), and adds a unnessesary level of complexity to the design of gunplay balance.
I expressly wrote that I want the SVT to be clip fed, too…
I would not at all mind if all SA rifles got a slight damage boost across the board.
Both the Kretz and Pavesi SVT have given me a taste for it.
BA rifles can get the same ammo reserve as semi-autos to compensate.
I mean, I think my proposed changes are no more or less significant than the above ones, or the already discussed ones…
I’d say entirely redoing the SVT-38 animation and redoing many of the reloads is a bit more of a drastic change.
I absolutely agree with making the SVT-38 clip fed, but I also worry that would probably face a lot of resistance from mains. So while just buffing the G41 is a bandaid change, I do think it’s nonetheless a good start to balance things that would be easier to get implemented. I don’t disagree but I just think this is an easier start, considering how difficult it is to even get body armor removed.
They feel pretty unsatisfying to use given how often they just down (feels like it halves the mag size) so I definitely agree on that.
Personally I think that the SVT-38 just needs to use clips. I don’t like balance changes that make every faction have a statistically identical reskin of one another.
I like this far more then moving the g43 to br3
Buffing the g41 and nerfing the svt38
Is far less work than moving the g43 to br3
Than buffing the garand, johnson, type 4 and g41
It trades two bullets for a faster single reload. Perfect trade, I love it. Almost wish that the weapon was British, so I could get away with using it on my Commonwealth soldiers.
But, there’s only room in my heart for one kind of rifle, the Lee-Enfields.
The SVT38 has a great, easy-to-use sight and a 2-second reload, comfortable recoil, and one-shot damage. The Pavesi buff was terribly slow, giving it a horrific 4 seconds. While it’s not 5.6 seconds, it’s still too long. To make the Gever41 playable, too much needs to be done, and it needs to be buffed.
Plus, the Soviets have cuirasses, which is really crucial if you have 14.4 damage, which saves you from a chest one-shot. And with that kind of reload, the Gever41 is just trash. Thank goodness they buffed WG1-5, so I don’t recommend anyone use the Gever41 and instead switch to WG1-5. I’ve already built a 3x9 setup for myself.
I pretty much only use the VG 1-5 at BR3 (especially after the buff), the only exception is a nine man rifle squad that has G 41’s locked weapons. If the weapons were not locked, they would all be sporting VG 1-5’s.
