Currently, the only two factions that have access to bolt action rifles with extended mags is the germans with the Gewehr 98 eartime mod with a bayonet and 25 round mag and the Japanese with the type 38 rifle with a detachable 30 round mag. But I’ve been doing some digging and found a possible candidate for the Americans/British. The SMILE with the Linley 20 round mag.
Now, before I begin, I’ll like to say that the sources I gather aren’t that good in my opinion. If you have anything regarding the Linley 20 round mag for the SMILE or similar rifles, please feel free to share them.
And here they are.
https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/280268-twenty-round-magazine/
And here’s some more photos
Stats
Damage: 25.4
Muzzle velocity (m/sec): 750
Rate of fire per minute: 63
Reload time (sec): 8.0
Shots deviation: 10
Vertical recoil: 80
Horizontal recoil: 45
Feed system: 20-magazine
Weight (kg): 4.1
Sprint factor (%): 100
Cartridge mass (g): 29.6
Firing modes: Manual
How should it be implemented?
It’s clear that it shouldn’t be a TT gun. I personally don’t care how it added in as long as it’s a event or battlepass gun, like how it’s german and Japanese counterparts are.
Conclusion
With what I’ve said and shown, I hope you guys and gal’s agree with adding this rifle to the game.
- Yes, it should be added as either a event or battlepass guns
- Yes, it should be a event gun
- Yes, it should be a battlepass gun
- No, it shouldn’t be added as either event or battlepass gun
- I don’t care
- I’m neutral on this.
Signed Ludewick A Kartztine of the 68th heavy infantry Division
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There is actually a very rare springfield air service that was given to early supporters of the game alongside with kar98k trench and mosin m1891 “infantry”
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Oh, I honestly forgot about them. But they aren’t available anymore, so I believe it would make sense to allow the allies (including the Soviets) to have the chance to have something similar. A high capacity bolt action rifle
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I agree. Kinda like germany got the g98 trench as a more available version of kar98k trench
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A fair reminder that this mag would be compatible with the Turner SMLE as well, and we could well see a BR IV premium of it in addition to the current BR III version.
Preferably with the right nationality of squad this time.
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Alright, but would this be BR 2 or BR 3? Personally I think BR 3, since extended mag weapons are uptiered by 1 from their standard counterparts
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BR2, like the other large capacity bolt actions.
A very rare example equipped with a Springfield rifle, apparently called an aircraft rifle.
The rest are from BR 1 guns, though. The large mag makes them BR 2
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A charger-loading magazine introduced in 1918 for the SMLE rifle. According to Skennerton, approximately 200,000 such magazines had been produced by September 1918, with 120,000 of them shipped to France by August 1918.
This 20-round magazine was removed in exactly the same way as the standard 10-round magazine. However, in combat conditions, it was not detached for reloading.
if the cycling while aiming function is removed, sure… otherwise i genuinely think this would be op… kretz p13 type situation.
not sure if with this mag its impossible but i had to note as it wasn’t mentioned.
It doesn’t seem to change anything about the action of the gun so there’s no reason for it not to be possible.
I have no strong feelings about this one way or the other.
Well, it could be uptier to br 3. Whih the Kretz should’ve been
The SMLE does make me SMILE.
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BR3 then.
Its already a considerable pro to shoot while sighted & top of that the recoil doesnt always throw off the aim, unlike manlicker that always goes off target due to recoil.
Another thing is that it retains ~20dmg at 100m which is enough to kill soldier with 0 chance of being downed at 100m ( No vitality )
while both arisaka & manlicker are way below 20dmg.
If vitality is considered then sure, id say they all are just downing.
Sure, gewehr wartime mod with high cap mag does also +20dmg but has quite awful sights and loads by stripper clips, but what comes to dmg its bit more in line with smle.
Unless the gun comes with a free steroid injection for the shooter’s right arm, it’s going to be useless in BR3 where semi-autos are the norm.
Kind of an interesting fun fact as a side note; while the 20 round mag wasn’t detached for reloading, it was attached for reloading. The idea was that the shooter would initially use his rifle with the regular 10 round magazine and after it was emptied it was swapped out for the 20 round mag. Only when that was emptied as well would he start reloading using stripper clips.
So it is interesting that the 20 round mag was used as a “quick swap” detachable magazine.
It wouldn’t make sense to remove the cycling while aiming feature, attaching the 20 round magazine doesn’t have an effect on the rifle’s bolt operations.
The Kretz would be awful at BR3 considering its low firing speed, small magazine, and horrendous sights. There are more sensible ways to rebalance the gun if it’s overperforming at BR2.
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Like the guns with twice the ammo capacity, nearly 200 more rounds per minute and bayonets?
It would have a 20 round mag, loaded via clips. But besides that it would be the same as the TT SMILE
