??? What now?
Well. Since you stopped flagging posts, I guess this wont happen that much now.
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This is not SQUAD and we have mods which censors insignias except Soviet ones.
Its kinda interesting to go on such a level consider that here its 50/50 if devs can/ want publish German insignias and Axis generals.
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As a Chinese gamer, I have to say that the Sino-Japanese battlefield is one of the most discussed topics in the Chinese community, and all of us would love to see a mainstream World War II game showing this long war that lasted fourteen years.
Due to China’s poor industry in the twentieth century, our military relied heavily on imports to meet its own weapons needs, and even then we had our own designs for bolt-action rifles, semi-automatic rifles, and submachine guns. You can’t imagine how many weapons can be found here. There are hard hitting urban battlefields, fierce firefights taking place in the dense forests of Southeast Asia, and guerrilla warfare focused on asymmetrical combat among light infantry - this could even prepare for the future southern European front, and the richness of the game is definitely not a problem.
As for the review? Even games like Battlefield 4 and Operation Flashpoint, which portray us as evil villains, can be played here normally, and I hope you realize that we live in a modern country similar to yours, and that this is not some George Orwell anti-utopia!
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We have at least three independently designed bolt-action rifles, and two semi-automatic rifles (maybe you’ve seen one of them in Battlefield 1).
In terms of automatic weapons, China was one of the largest overseas users of the Mauser automatic pistol, which we had imported in large quantities to replace the then unavailable submachine guns, and we had produced our own version of the Thompson submachine gun, mainly by Taiyuan Arsenal. We also had a modified air-cooled version of the Maxim heavy machine gun.
We also had our own fighter planes - one was even a forward-swept wing fighter, first flown in 1944
If DF is willing and not so lazy, they can even fill the entire campaign level with just the gun, and no weapons will appear that other camps already have, and I hope you enjoy the free unlockable, pistol grip BAR（FN Mle30）
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All of them are based on European or Japanese rifles.
Name one because I don’t know.
So basically European/ Yankee stuff but slightly altered.
Would be a bit late and doesn’t change fact that Chinese were relying on Western stuff and biplanes from Russia most of the time.
Well apart from DF being lazy, I don’t know how much uncommon stuff we would get. But then my pleb knowledge is based on GunJesus, Wiki and so.
I don’t have much in-depth knowledge about firearms, especially old Chinese rifles, but would that be a General Liu Rifle?
I do not know how this gun was invented, but since I have never seen a gun similar to it I assumed it was a Chinese invention.
Even if China in the 1930s had copied Western or Japanese rifles, many of the firearms would not be reproduced by simple copy-and-paste, as they have their own improvements and look and feel. I love the countless Thompson variations in this game. I can’t wait to see the Chinese ver Thompson and the C96 (Type 17) pistol.
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And I found something interesting from a ForgottenWeapon article about unique Chinese firearms from the 1930s.
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I’m not sure what their English name should be, I’ll try to describe
1, Quickly Rifle, a straight-pull bolt-action rifle with a 5-round magazine and 7.7mm x 56R ammunition made by the Qing Dynasty during its Self-strengthening movement
2, type81 cavalry rifle, a short rifle developed by the arsenal in the communist-controlled area in 1940, using 7.9mm ammunition
3、Liaoning type 13 rifle, a rotating back-pull bolt-action rifle firing Mauser ammunition
4, General Liu Qing’en semi-automatic rifle, it appeared in Battlefield 1, probably the most well-known Chinese rifle of the twentieth century
5, Guan Xiangying semi-automatic rifle, a gas-guided semi-automatic rifle with 5 rounds of ammunition capacity, from a communist arsenal,designed by communist engineers in 1944
Type 50 small mortar, a weapon inspired by the Japanese knee mortar, but can be used to fire flat to against Japanese fortifications
There is also this, Shandong communist arsenal production of grenade launcher, 35mm caliber, play may be similar to the RMN50
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Yes, thank you for adding, this is indeed a General Liu semi-automatic rifle, after the Qing dynasty was overthrown in 1911, General Liu Qingen was appointed factory director of Hanyang Arsenal, and he designed this semi-automatic rifle in 1914, featuring a unique automatic principle and the ability to switch between semi-automatic and bolt action
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I hope there are fewer tragedies like this. I heard that Western Europe is turning towands the right, which is worrying
The Right is the Right way to go just dont go to far Right (Facism, Nazism, Ect)
As well, as a side note, The kind with two tripods from Sichuan, characterized by the M1923 model with a heat sink from the M1921 model that fires 7.63mm ammunition, and in addition to the normal shape, there are also the following versions of these rather odd shapes, they can be found in museums in Beijing and Chengdu.Maybe they could be good golden weapons.
The one that appears in the three historical photos is the Shanxi version of the Thompson. Yan Xishan, the Shanxi warlord at the time, loved the weapon and gave it to a portion of the nearby Communist army, whose arsenal did not produce .45ACP ammunition, so we gave it to militia units that did not have much opportunity to fire it. You can see in historical photos a wonderful combination of submachine guns, homemade muskets and spears, and even the Japanese used this submachine gun and took it to Iwo Jima, where it was captured by the U.S. Army - West Point should have a collection of such weapons!
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I have reservations. As it stands, the right has not thoroughly defeated the left in debate and struggle. As a worker, at least I believe the left is better able to defend our interests
Well, enough political debate, before the post is deleted 
Devs please do not delete posts!!!
It’s a revolutionary rifle to be able to switch between semi-automatic and bolt-action. Just imagining how that could exist in a game is exciting!
Would it be a gun that is strong in close combat like the Garland and as precise at long range as the Lee Enfield?
I would love to see that in a game.
Thanks for the rare photo and info about the Chinese Thompson. That is very interesting.
I had no idea about its history so I did a Google search. It looks like the US had an arms embargo from 1935 to 1940 because of Monroeism. It seems that a number of unique Thompsons were being made in China during this period for defense purposes. That is a very interesting history. You are right, these Thompsons are perfect for gold weapons.
I have also heard stories of the Japanese military favoring captured Thompsons, perhaps they were made by the Chinese as you say, or were U.S. Lend-Lease items.
There were also US Marines in Shanghai, although they never engaged the Japanese and left. It may be somewhat out of reality, but the game could use the weapons they left behind for the Chinese army.
And this is a strange thing I found in the sea of internet, but by all means an item I saw in the China-Japanese war campaign. It is a Thompson with knuckle duster.
I think it is a perfect gold ticket weapon.
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We should end political talk that is no longer relevant to the topic and post some ideas for a China-Japanese war campaign.
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It wasn’t just the US, the League of Nations embargoed China in the civil war, when China couldn’t get SMGs, so we imported and copied Mauser automatics in large numbers as assault weapons, maybe a regular Mauser automatic could be a free weapon, and a .45ACP version equipped by some warlord for his armored train guards could be another interesting gold weapon
Japanese forces in China could have captured not only their own Chinese-made Thompsons, but also some early models that had never been equipped by the U.S. Army, in addition to the military models like the M1A1 that were acquired by Chinese forces in Southeast Asia and India, and by Chinese forces at home later in the war. The Japanese even wrote an operating manual for the Thompson submachine gun, and this picture I found is a modern photocopied version of the cover.
Less well known is the fact that Sun Yat-sen’s Presidential Guard was equipped with the Thompson submachine gun with a 100-round drum model, which would have been the perfect top assault weapon in the game. You can see in this not-so-clear photo that the guards walking in front of Sun Yat-sen is using this particular M1921.
Of course, bayonets are also essential
The most interesting thing about that USMC photo you found is that they carried a special kind of Thompson - the M1928AC, which had a foregrip and muzzle compensator
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I made a Soviet-Japanese war mod in Manchuria. Of course, this is not very balanced, but I try to use the terrain and fortifications to reduce the advantages of the Soviet army. What’s your opinion on this?
https://sandbox.enlisted.net/post/3EIKVM1Fr2Udmd0k/
https://sandbox.enlisted.net/post/sIPZkEhfcoE3Y1HK/
Maybe I will make a mod for Manchurian Communist guerrillas and Japanese troops in the future, which will be more balanced.
But still need Chinese weapons and clothes
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Excellent findings. Thank you for sharing these interesting facts.
Sun Yat Sen’s escort unit might be good for a premier SQUAD. That squad would include one engineer and five assault troops, all armed with M1928s with 100 round magazines.
Also, I like the idea of a Thompson with a bayonet attached…It gives us an idea of the various innovations that the Chinese had devised for self-defense.
As for me, there is one other weapon that I definitely want and that is The Shansi Type 17, which is an improved version of the Mauser that you also mentioned.
It is capable of full automatic fire, and the Chinese rangers fired this gun in rapid succession on horseback, poised on the side grip.
Imagine Chinese cavalrymen attacking a Japanese armored train, it is awesome. You could even introduce motorcycles instead of horses.
Wow! Did you make the mod? Great job, I’m sure you’ll be a great help to us all. The clash between Japan and the Soviet Union is also interesting.
If you are thinking of recreating the Sino-Japanese war with a mod, I feel that the faces of the Chinese soldiers could be made up of Japanese or Soviet Mongoloid soldiers. Also, the clothing of the Kuomintang could be appropriated from German helmets, etc. But I don’t know if that combination can actually be done in modeditor. I tried once and it did not work.
I am still waiting for the implementation of an official Sino-Japanese war campaign, as the current mod lacks various assets to recreate the China-Japanese war.
And once again, as a mod creator. Your enthusiasm is worthy of respect.
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It is a Chinese one but a proto/ never entered mass production amd was produced during WW1.
Apart from the bipod, it still looks like a Tommy.
This Thompson with bipod fires 7.63mm Mauser pistol rounds instead of .45acp
The Americans themselves produced the M1923 with a bipod, which featured an extended barrel in addition to the bipod, which the manufacturer hoped would be a competitor to the BAR, but unsurprisingly failed. The warlord in Shanxi copied this long barrel Thompson, but I can’t find any exact information about this weapon being sold to China
In this game,all three Japanese semi-automatic rifle designs are also prototype weapons, which produced the most version of the production of only 16, I think the prototype weapon is not a problem, and the production of General Liu rifles has nearly a hundred, and even the number of Guan Xiangying rifles may be more than 10.
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