Within the test server, Jumbo tanks on the Pacific Campaign are almost unbeatable

When playing the Pacific war campaign, The Allies Normandy tanks are overpowered in this campaign, I just shot a tank, it was of course the jumbo, using the type 5 rocket launcher, I used all my ammo on not one soldier but two and it did not bring him down. Japan needs better anti-tank weapons, and better tanks if they are to face off with Jumbo tanks…

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I don’t think any vehicle is OP, just that they have their strengths, weaknesses, and roles. In my experience it’s usually not too hard to find a work around to fight any vehicles

But that is a separate point,

I feel Jumbos shouldn’t even be in the Pacific simply because they didn’t see service there. I know everyone has different standards and lines drawn when it comes to the sandboxiness of this game.

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I don’t think Jumbo’s or any tank with a cannon bigger than 75mm(except for SPG) is supposed to be on the Pacific…have you tried early weapons though? Is very anticlimactic seeing a M4A3E2 against a tank that could barely pen 100 mm

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I tend to look at vehicle gameplay simply as, all that matters is you are supporting the team however you can one way or the other

Say we have a match where it’s Ha-Gos vs Shermans. It’s the Ha-Gos job to focus on infantry, and it’s the Sherman’s job to kill the Ha-Gos

Or when I’m an AA I alternate between shooting planes and fighting infantry

And who has the job to kill the sherman?
The worse in every aspect discount pz 4 J that is endgame in the tree vs earlyish for the US?
The 75mm isnt that good and does struggle to pen them reliably. So it loses to the sherman if it tries…

The frick are they doing putting Jumbo’s in the Pacific? Shoot putting a regular Sherman in there’s a problem for the Japs. Don’t know if they have anything to fight a Jumbo outside of that AT Rifle between the treads

Man I have 0:00 time spent as the Japs and even I see this as a problem

Your vehicles, infantry, Engineer AT guns, and planes. This all bears more on the skill of your team, like matches I’ve had where an enemy Engineer is smart enough to build an AT gun to my flank to take me out

Just wanted to mention I have suggested Heavy AA guns for all factions that can also act as AT guns. In factI think Japan’s equivalent of the Flak 8,8 was their best weapon against Shermans

In my experience very few vehicles are truly gray zone camping and are usually relatively close to the objective.

I’ll give a hypothetical
If I’m in a Ha-Go I’m going to primarily focus on fighting infantry. If I see a Sherman I’d probably try and disable his tracks or get somewhere to his side for any weak points

If I disable his tracks eventually he’ll have to come out to repair it meaning his crew can be easily killed.

If the Sherman happens to see me first and kills me then maybe the next vehicle slot will have better luck

I will say that vehicles aren’t the complete deciding factor of a match. They are just a piece of the team. You can be the absolute best tanker but if your team can’t take the point that falls on them. Conversely you can be the best defensive tanker taking out enemy armor but if your team can’t defend that falls on them. It’s like Rock Paper Scissors between infantry, vehicle, plane

You are right, IS 2 vs Panzer II is completely balanced - because both vehicles have their own strengths and weaknesses.

You need to use the force guys…
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I mean ideally the Panzer 2 and IS 2 wouldn’t be in the same match.

You’re more likely to have a Puma in the same match as an IS 2

But lighter vehicles can still fight heavier ones if they know what they’re doing. A Stuart can certainly take out a Tiger

just like a knife can take out an Assault rifle - still doesn’t make both comparable.

people need a general idea of balance and gameplay before opening their mouth.

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Pfff
Ha-Go has no HE, a weak cannon and the mg can only be used by the commander and its a shitty Jap one.

Jumbo 75mm is allrounder and can nuke entire bunkers and tanks at the same time and it has a mg you can actually use as the gunner and it has enough rounds to not constantly waste time reloading… and it has HE shells.

But cope harder with a supposed anti-“infantry” tank that doesnt even has HE shells.

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I personally think that all that matters is the vehicle slot is doing whatever particular job he has to do, that is supporting the team one way or the other. No matter how big or insignificant. Whether you’re the SPAA shooting down planes or the Heavy tank soaking up damage

I think people shouldn’t feel like they must only play the biggest most strongest vehicles. It’s like maybe I feel like playing a Stuart, maybe I feel like Pershing. I’ll certainly do whatever job each of them has to do.

Another reason why I think people shouldn’t shit on lighter vehicles is because it may end up making them not adding any into the game. Many of us have been asking for lighter vehicles such as trucks, halftracks, armored cars, etc. For example, look at the famous Katyusha. They can basically be one shotted by everything. Should we not have any in game because the perceived meta forces everyone to play nothing but super heavies

My point is I just view everything has a role to play no matter what the vehicle slot is. Maybe you have a good run as a vehicle, maybe you get destroyed and it’s the next guy’s turn. And so on and so fourth

or alternately just make it so the jumbo doesn’t see the pacific maps

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Except this isnt DnD and Heavies can do 99% what a light can do except they are a bit slower.

Just flank it.
I don’t see a problem.

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Just use NI05, that’s true way how to fight for god emperor.

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I understand. It’s like look at tank destroyers, many would say why use it when you can literally have a tank with the same exact gun AND a turret.

Thankfully us players don’t have the same constraints as WW2 countries that had to cut costs to produce tank destroyers and we can afford to have every single player be the most top line vehicles

I just look at it as this is a WW2 sandbox and it’s cool to play a variety of vehicles from the war :man_shrugging:

"Ha-Go is anti-infantry tank.
“No its not. Jumbo is better at this role and much more”.
“But Diversity bro”.
What are you even talkiing about? Whenever you make such stupid claims, you keep dodging to muh diversity which has nothing to do with the claim. Stop making up claims you cant seriously back up.

Or shit like this…

And thats coming from the same guy that doesnt care about historical accuracy.
Who cares about real life? This has nothing to do with how the tanks are working ingame. At least use War Thunder next time.

I think it’s just that we have differing perspectives

Let me try and put it this way

  • every vehicle has characteristics and obviously some vehicles are going to be better than others
  • you are able to perform no matter what vehicle you are using and help the team

If I’m playing Normandy and I’ve decided to play Stuart I am going to primarily fight infantry and light vehicles. If I’m playing and I’ve decided to play Pershing I’m going to primarily fight vehicles.

I believe you have told me in previous conversations that light vehicles are a waste and you’re basically hurting your team, while I view that you can use whatever vehicle you want and do whatever you can. It’s basically saying you shouldn’t play the Puma because you’re taking up a space your team could’ve spawned a Maus.

While I view it doesn’t matter whether you’re the Puma, Tiger, or Maus or Stuart, Sherman, or Pershing in a match. Just play and support the team. And I view every little thing supports the team whether you’re racking up tons of kills or you take out just one single enemy vehicle or assaulting an objective or building an ammo box in some corner or being a sniper all the way in the back of the map

I’ve said before that my philosophy is basically semi historical or as I put it historical(+). And with everything everyone draws their lines differently

I was making a joke. I’ve seen plenty of people here shit on tank destroyers and how tanks are better in many ways and you shouldn’t bother with tank destroyers. I shouldn’t have to explain that the reason tank destroyers were built was because they were cheaper than tanks