Why using Soviet body armour as justification for Germany buffs should not be allowed

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Funny that the post does not even mention body armour.
Best proof ever, ngl.
I am impressed.

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Wut

As far as I see the Germans arenā€™t getting body armour (at least iā€™m not suggesting that).
And Americanā€™s dont have it eitherā€¦so they still get one-shot, unlike the soviets. Whatā€™s your pont?

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I am genuinely confused, do you mean his comment or my post

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For Aquilasā€¦

T20 strong enough, buff FG42 dmg fine.

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Both because I still fail to see evidences for your claims.

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One that I didnā€™t ask for and did not make it much better (still trash imo compared to ass-44)

fair

awesome

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Well - people dont realise it because I havenā€™t complained about this for over a year now - but Paratroopers get a bonus perk of extra HP that stacks with the already existing vitality perk, resulting in them having something around 14.7HP - which is also enough to stop one FG42 shot.

So technically all factions already have something similar to body armor.

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Yep, and dont forget flametrooper IIs

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Are you sure you are not a troll captain?

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Yeah, but flamethrowers arenā€™t meta anymore, so I never did complain about those.

However if you want to troll people, try out Soviet Flamers + body armor, youā€™ll get something around 16.5 effective HP.

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And are you sure are not illiterate?
Because I do not count your words are things said by other people unless you suffer from split personality.
And GeneralBrus still did not compare FG to body armour but to the AVT in the screenshot.

Also, by the post I meant the stupid post where you show the stupid screenshot of Brusā€¦

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Now imagine the itallian flame parasā€¦
but they get 2 default vitalityā€™s as paras and flametroopersā€¦
and some madman actually gets every faction body armour.
20+ hp on br 2 lol

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Luckily there is only one default perk - my god.

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Do you understand the difference between a comment and a post?
Are you sure you are literate?

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America is 2nd best nation at BR5 after overbuffed Soviets. Even with removal of body armor buff their T20 would still be much stronger than FG42 II.

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actually no. most of the requests to buff german weapons is cause of powercreep or cause soviets initially had OP weapons for their BR.

lets take it apart one by one:
mp40 vs pps42(and pp43):

  • mp40 has significantly slower rate of fire
  • mp40 has less bullets in magazine
  • has slightly more damage but it is only advantage in one scenario: within 15m when enemy has vitality. if enemy doesnt have vitality(most often scenario on BR2) or enemy has body armor(seal clubbers) or it is shooting 15+m with vitality it is at disadvantage

how to fix this?
remove body armor, introduce some shitty SMG for soviets on BR1 and BR2(in line with german counterparts) and move pps42 and pps43 to BR3

fg42 vs AVT/AVS

  • fg42 has lower damage and higher ROF
  • fg42 has lower per bullet recoil and ~same full auto recoil(per time spraying)
  • avt40 has lower magazine and better dispersion
  • without vitality fg42 has advantage(although vitality should be standard for BR5 players)
  • with vitality it has advantage within 40m, AVT/AVS have advantage post 40m
  • with vitality and body armor AVT/AVS have advantage
  • btw if you want IRL argument, mauser cartridge was more powerful than russian 7.62
balistics

mauser 7.92
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7.62x54
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how to fix this?
remove body armor, give AVT/AVS +5 magazine size and increase damage for fg42 to 15.3. this makes AVT/AVS somewhat equal to fg42 and fg42 somewhat equal to t20.

armaguerra vs fedorov 1912

  • i am of opinion that SA with 5 round magazine are shit and you are better off with BA rifle
  • if one rifle has 13.6 damage and other has 14.8 damage, then they either need to lower damage of one, or increase damage of the other. there have been precedent of lowering damage for same caliber cause of different BR(e.g. svt38 and svt40).
  • this is not about body armor, but about armaguerra being 2 hit gun just past 10m cause of shitty initial damage, while fedorov 1912 can down 60+m with 1 bullet. so either it fedorov needs nerf to ~same damage as armaguerra or armaguerra needs buff to fedorov level
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lol i believe the correct conjunction here woud be ā€œasā€ and not ā€œareā€

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this post its going to end in big drama

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And I think you wanted to write I and not i and spell woud as would.

And do you understand the difference between comparing weapons with weapons and comparing weapons with weapons and body armor?
So where is the proof?

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gotta keep it alive and at the top of the lists so the devs notice it lol

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