Why the gewerh 43 8mm kursk got a 550 Rmp mode?

Honestly, these informations aren’t that difficult to come by anymore though… there are nowadays so many gun youtube channels where they shoot even super old weapons… you can guess fire rate of those guns just by watching those videos.

This is so smart, it should be illegal.
100% signed that.

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Talking about fire rate in general, usually the bullet is the biggest contributer to it. There are exceptions of course, and since it is very difficult to find videos of someone actually shooting a G43K cuz its so rare, we can only speculate.

But, one thing should be said about the 8mm kurz cartridge - every video that I find someone shooting a STG, MKB, or MP43 … the automatic fire rate is slow, very slow, to me personally it seems close to a MP40 - which was probably the intention to have it perform similarly so that soldier dont need as long to get used to it.

So STG44 is already shooting too fast.

So 550 round per minutes is slow for Enlisted, but I bet that the G43K would actually have under 500 rpm in the real world, considering it got the bigger bolt of a G43 with more mass.

if you are buying stuff in game that is in development and where all data is subject to change while you were warned about it in TOS makes it legal. you may not like it, but it is what it is.

i would love if they operated like this… but you have seen how suggestions go and how long it takes to implement them. ffs we only now got corrected dispersion for some guns that people were asking them to correct for years. do you know how much time you need to correct those values? a minute of work.

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The thing is though - even though you don’t own digital property, by spending money on lets say a G43k you buy a service.

The devs are obligated to deliver this service, and as soon as they change that, its no longer what you spent money on.

So a weapon gold order refund is actually more than justified.

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I dont get why people think its getting nerfed, it was a glitchy mess in burst mode where almost half of your bullets disappeared and it was a huge waste of ammo. Its why I removed them from my lineup.

Im very happy with the change to full auto so I will definitely bring them back.

Also, here is a video showing the difference between the old and new firing modes:

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i was researching mauser round cause i was trying to find evidence of soviets supercharging tokarev round (which is basically mauser round with slight changes). all data i found about mauser round was from american cartridges which had muzzle velocity of 1400-1450fps. only one source vaguely mentioned difference between american(1400-1450fps) and german cartridges(muzzle velocity anywhere between 1300-1600fps depending on cartridge). so even if you find video of someone shooting it you cant really be certain of its actual rof in time of its usage.

devs can stop providing that service tomorrow it would be legal, not to mention just changing specs of one weapon. when you use service you are under terms and conditions of service provider. one of the “benefits” of not owning the product and paying for the service.

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They are a service provider, they need to deliver the payed service. I don’t think they are legally able to do what ever the heck they want.

I mean this might be a neutral take but g43k feel fine sure it can get a rof buff a bit since it full auto now, it is sad tho tbh since burst fire was super fun for me (and quite effective when I’m lagging)

A TOS doesn’t supersede the law. You cannot, for instance say that you have the right to kill customers who sue you and have that be legally enforceable even if the customer agreed to it in the TOS - just as an extreme example. Considering the amount of jurisdictions, there are probably plenty of fraud and consumer protection laws where “we can change whatever we want that people paid for whenever we want, because it’s in the TOS and you agreed” will not fly as an argument and might not be enforceable depending on the circumstances.

Also either way - doesn’t mean that anyone cannot sue in either case.

Yet :mouse:

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you are obviously not familiar with informed consent. if service provider informed you that it may change anything in the game for any reason and despite that you still proceeded to buy the service, then you really have nothing to go on legally.

only thing that would possibly be in grey zone legally is one sided changes to product/service without a VALID reason and they have valid reason for change in this case.

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He was not justifying it, it is just the reason for it and that’s all, again I am not defending df and think this move is stupid

Hey guys, remember the fire rate for all semi auto are still capped? Remember as44 is a Soviet stg44 but better? Nothing is about historical accuracy. The devs just don’t want you to use g43k just like how they screw mkb42 over.

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Why you care? Doesn’t matter that much you still got a assault rifle for a engineer or radio even rifle men

After doing some research, here’s what I found;

The Gewehr 43 8mm Kurz or it’s real life name, Sturmgewehr G-43 DFE (DauerFeuerEinrichtung), is a fully automatic/semi automatic weapon. It doesn’t have burst fire, however, it looks like Darkflow may of mis-translated the weapon’s description. The weapon that is currently in the Wehrtechnische Studiensammlung Museum has a small description card in German, which when translated to English, a small part of it reads “The shooting tests are extremely unsatisfactory. As a result of the strong recoil impulse from the bursts of fire, the muzzle moved upwards after the first shot.”
I think they made a mistake when doing initial research on the weapon and must of thought the “bursts of fire” literally meant burst fire. You can view an image of the weapon as well as its description card here;

Sorry for the low quality image, i had to steal it from somebody online.

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interesting

And if they now decided they want to follow the historical accuracy trail then G43K should have a rate of fire of 480 and not 550.

image

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480 is stock, 550 is upgraded :stuck_out_tongue:

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Plus it should have been reclassified to AR, since it’s literally named assault rifle G-43 DFE.

Nah, HA was just lame excuse for whatever intention they do have.

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