There is a chanse that MG34 will be added. I guess we have to wait for OBT to continue this discusion.
I played yesterday and I had no issue shooting 10 round bursts (it’s not short burst) at mid range.
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You are the only person on this forum who thinks PPD is overperforming and you are always pushing it
You are comparing it to a gun that isn’t even added yet
Who knows how will DP look like in OBT
‘‘Extreme close range combat’’? 
while all the MP’s can be used on every range
I think MG-34 was confirmed on official website
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PPD is basically an MP-40 with twice the RoF. Makes any other SMG in the game irrelevant.
I compared performance of the MG-13 to a gun that I am familiar with during alpha. The only difference I find between the current MG-13 and DP-27 in alpha is the magazine size. And the point was to not even compare it. It’s a note to the devs that if people find the MG-13 OP already, then doubling it’s magazine and calling it DP is a bad idea.
Yeah good luck killing someone with a PPD head to head in a building. The PPD has always been good at this and should remain so. It can do the same at medium ranges too with zero regard to ammo count now and that’s bad. You’ll never get a chance to counter a PPD once it faces you. Earlier you got the recoil advantage but now that’s gone, it’s pretty much impossible. So, what’s the point of using MP-40s. The 0.1 extra damage!?
Depends on what you consider mid range tbh. It takes a whole lot of recoil control from me to land 10 shots accurately at what I would consider mid range.
They really shouldn’t have removed the old training. Could have put it to the test. What a shame!
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If you can’t kill anyone with MP-41 which the best SMG in the game, you should not play FPS
I assume you came from Warthunder
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I can’t tell you unfortunately. My range estimation skill is quite bad.
You can’t even get that SMG past April 6th which is why the comparison was all against MP-40. And you want the ftp players to bear the brunt for exclusive weapons???
And PPD is still far better than MP-41 at close ranges. And close ranges is where the majority of action happens in Moscow campaign. Making the PPD perfect for it. Look at the application, not the frickin’ stat card.
I can kill using a PPD that has recoil. You don’t know how to do that, do you!? Hahahahaha
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I have posts said it is OP (mostly because soviet dosent has a similar one)
But since the new MG30 is so f**king OP, no one now cares about the MG13.
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Yeah pretty much
Good for you
PPD has to be nerfed because one player think it’s too OP
A bad news, it’s said that more premium squads and more kinds of premium squads is coming in OBT.
The recoil in my experience is PPD-like.
Completely absurd compared to the Madsen and Chauchat.
With the Chauchat you can almost halfway aim within 50m, with the Madsen you’re stuck firing single shots or you’re better off hipfiring because you ride above your target so quickly in ADS.
Have you actually used it recently? Short bursts are the only way to use it with how much recoil it has.
Also PPD has recoil? When did this happen?
I use the PPD with the box magazine and it kicks like a mule compared to my other SMGs, is the drum one different?
IDK I only have the box magazines for the PPD.
Honestly recoil in this game is super manageable so when people have discussions like this I’m usually lost. Too much playing Tarkov where everything recoils a LOT.
I’m not saying it’s hard to control, it’s still light compared to ‘simulator’ FPSs, but most of my other SMGs have an amount of recoil that means you can hold down the trigger and kill enemies up to about 30m with relative ease. It’s not heavy on the PPD but it makes a big difference at medium range
Not encouraging for a nerf on PPD/PPSHs either. Soviet SMGs are an iconic part of the war and a unique strength the USSR fielded and I want all soviet players (myself included) to experience that.
I’d increase LMG recoil across the board but that’s just me. Right now they are indistinguishable from Assaulters.
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I unlocked it yesterday, used it yesterday and today.
Comparing it with ZB it like laser gun vs mule.
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Finally something about I can agree with you. What should be done with LMGs is lowering their CQB capability, because right know (at least for me) LMG is definetly a weapon of choice when storming a building. They are the most universal weapon right now.
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I didn’t expect this from you, I agree
Both PPD and PPSh should most definitely be strong
The only problem they currently have are bad Netcode and incorrect gun sound
We have to see how will they perform after these bugs get fixed
I think MG’s should not be able to fire from the shoulder like in real life so player has to mount a bipod
The only LMG that can be fired from the shoulder should be the american BAR or the French Chauchat
I mean, you could try. But it shouldn’t be as reliable as it is now.
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