I will never play russian side, m8. I disagree with ability to being forced to switch sides after match…
They simply need a stage of the game where they can compete. Even if the suffer time gets shorter, it won’t stop people from just having a horrible time in their first match and leave.
Well they do have more players, resulting in more players being able to use tanks while the rest of the team attacks points. SU doesnt have enough soldiers to crew a lot of tanks.
- Both the T-60 and Pz2 can not penetrate each other’s front hull.
- Both the T-60 and Pz2 have an engine on the right side that eats shells
- Both the T-60 and Pz2 easily die to a shot from their left
- Both the T-60 and Pz2 have roughly equal mobility
- Both the T-60 and Pz2 are capable of penetrating each other’s front mantlet (altho T-60 must do so within 100m and has a bit harder time)
- The T-60 has a much higher magazine capacity, allowing it to shoot more until it has to reload
- The T-60 is smaller
So effectively, you are trading easier frontal mantlet penetration for higher magazine capacity and smaller size. It’s up to you to decide what is better. Neither tank is very newbie friendly, however, and require a decent ammount of experience to use properly, which explains why Germany is doing so much better (more “tryhards” or whatever you wanna call them)
Compared to the BT-7:
BT-7 is faster, but dies more quickly
BT-7 has better anti-infantry due to having a HE shell that is actually usable
BT-7 is much more common than Pz3E thanks to twitch drop
Pz3B is worse than T-26. They are both terrible but 3B is worse
Pz3E is decent but not as good as the BT-7
Aka for russia you have 2 solid options, while Germany has 1 good and one decent option.
Another thing to decide for yourself as to what is better.
Well I’d say that all that Russia needs is a ~5-10% recoil decrease on the PPDs for them to rival any of the MPs. Especially the drum PPD, as it can easily take out two whole squads without having to reload.
As they were designed to lie under a snowy bush. Now you don’t see a whole lot of snowy bushes, but I see even less players who actually just try to use the camo by lying on the snowy ground, as you’d be surprised how effective that can be against players (AI still sees you tho)
kill cam exists already what does even camo do lol?
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Soviets are not losing constantly anymore. The last few days I’ve seen a massive increase of different Soviet squads using higher-tier weaponry, and they are starting to absolutely thrash the Germans.
Everything you said is counterable. Literally every single thing. It’s been done in the past, and I can’t be bothered to do it in full, so I’ll give you a quick rundown.
- PzII & III can get taken out by a BT-7 very easily. This is a learn2play option, as you are faster than both of them.
- PzII’s firerate is lower than the T-60’s.
- The BT-7 is an endgame tank. The PzII is not.
- The MP-38 is painfully ‘okay’ by average, ‘pretty decent’ at best. It kicks like a mule and has poor damage over range, unlike the PPD.
- Soviets get a gun that has 70+ rounds. The Germans get nothing that even comes close to that.
- Soviets are fielding tanks a lot more than I’m seeing them on the German side.
not absolutely trash them just not being slapped around and putting up a fight with some success
Doesn’t completely correlate to the matches I’ve been in, but yeah. There’s definitely more of a fight now, and less of a full steamroll.
Laughable. Germans get sweetest green camo, on ALL their squads. Olive green is hardest to see in the way Enlisted graphics engine is done. Inside buildings with dark shadows - it’s literally invisible. Or against most of games gray backgrounds. LOL now compare that Soviets: Premium squad - BRIGHT YELLOW, Assaulter squad - BLUE, and RED, Machine gunner squad - BRIGHT YELLOW, Snipers - ALL WHITE. LOL
You are a practically a target as Soviet, while GE is hidden in shadows. You tell me - did Devs do this on purpose?
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But biggest issue is German tanks - they are unstoppable. Pz2 just rolls around, barely anything can do to it. I have PTRS on Soviets. I’ve tried penning Pz2 from million different ways - nothing pens it. Only thing - side and back shots to turret, to take out a gunner and commander. That’s it. PTRS does nothing else. Molotov bottles just annoy, no damage it seems. Explosives packs must directly blow under them. Or no damage at all.
And so these Pz2 just roam around, unstoppable, with their perfect mg turrets. Mowing down noobs. 3 man tank crew - you take out Commander - no problems, still 100% functioning and fighting. Etc. And all this goodness at LEVEL 1 LOL
Like I said Devs - I spent $60+ already on your game. You better stop licking German side so hard lol I understand it’s the dear Fatherland and all that lol
Main points:
- Nerf german tanks, specially Pz2 - unstoppable level 1 noob spammer. And most GE tanks are OP as well.
- Maybe move up PPD with drum unlock to level like 7-8, so it’s realistic to reach. 11(or 12?) is way too far. You gotta make it fun for Soviet side, and quickly after start.
- Camos - WTF soviet side? lolol Read above comment.
Why do you think I have wanted it removed for at least snipers?
Which does sometime seem to be the case for Normandy snipers so that’s 
Well all they needed was humans to play them anyways, their guns are better after all
Debatable. The camo really doesn’t help much anyways as you have AI running all over the place catching attention.
Also, those uniforms are historical at least for 1943 and later.
I literally just gave you the rundown of the tanks?
Hello?
You just gonna ignore the explaination and keep crying “germany OP” because you die to their tanks?
Guess what? Our PzB does the exact same to your tanks. It is a big rifle. Not a cannon with HE filler shells, unlike your BT-7
And you get your free top tier tank. Where is my free abrams? Because you guys got that
The devs are Russians. If anything, they would favor SU
Nope. All the sweaty players in favor of progression are against fun so we can’t have that
This is the one conversation so far I actually agree with TCat, that should tell you something @19945606
OK I dont see anything interesting to respond to. But what is this
“* Both the T-60 and Pz2 can not penetrate each other’s front hull.”
What are you talking about? Pz2 can pen anything, Bt-7 frontal, anything. What are you talking about?
I said T-60. Not BT-7. BT-7 has more mobility and the ability to oneshot a Pz2 when used right, which makes them roughly balanced.
Go hop into a Pz2 and find a T-60 and penetrate the front hull. Then we’ll talk
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you are taking this conversation in wrong direction. Clearly:
- Soviet camos are a joke. Here is my current level 14 squad line up:
Premium squad - bright yellow
Assaulters - blue and bright red
Machine gunners - bright yellow
Like, whatever the hell you can possible say about that? You are a clear target.
- Pz2 tank spam is insane - and ruins games. And just beats down on noobs.
Etc.
They are the historical uniforms. Apperantly the soviets thought they were fine. Idk what else to say, m8
Which as already been explained by the origional post
Anyway, whatever. I am not playing this game until a decent update, that would change things. Devs can play the game themselves lol
I am not playing or paying for this game, until it’s playable. Go nerf your beloved German side a little, way too much licking going on lol
They buffed Soviet damage by 20% and that did not increase their winrate because there weren’t enough players. Why do you think a Nerf for germans would achieve that? It will only lead to more German mains leaving the game.
bro the devs are russian please do your research before saying anything!
I don’t know who the employees are (they could be ex-Russian non-citizens for all I know), but the studio (Darkflow Software) is located in Latvia. For those who don’t know, Latvian mainstream is very much anti-Russian. Not that it’s necessarily relevant.
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Imho, Enlisted died the exact moment the community voted for being a F2P game.
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