i would lover if all weapons were use as in war as in the fg42 1 and 2 were either paratrooper weapons or lmgs not rifleman weapons. thats why we need prototype weapons to balance out bs weapon usage. yes germany had limited numbers of ars no the german army did not have sf, limited compared to the number of men serving even at the end.
if they do add a br6 to the game I think it should just move the never seen war stuff while keeping weapons that entered ww2 late in br5. so germany will keep their jets on br5 while other nations would have them in br6 same for the allies tanks and Japan tanks moving them to br6
Yep add BR6 as right now BR4 equipment is way too weak vs BR5 stuff. There are plenty of rifles and mgs that are barely better than br3 and yet you can’t really use them
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if all other factions move br5 to br6
fg42 br5 as paratrooper or lmg
tiger 2 br5 no just no
stg 44, yes no to all other ars and scoped ars
yes to the me262 in br5
so no germany does not get to keep everything in br5 just cause they used them in limited numbers
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Dont really get it why the BR6 would be necessary if ±0 BR5 solves the issue.
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Because most of them doesn’t really care about proper balance.
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read my post again then 
i stated multiple reasons.
Quite normal progression ? Which in 99.99% cases fits to all BR’s.
Extremely hard to see how ? Sure I get the idea that BR4 wouldnt face jets but same could be easily achieved by ±0 BR5.
±0 BR5 ???
Could say this applies to BR2 - BR3 as well, suddenly your lackluster 50mm long gun is switched to 75mm long that has no issues with KV1.
Anyway, again not exactly something that couldnt be fixed with locking br’s.
Well im speaking for myself but I dont really see anything even remotely intresting in BR4, especiatly now as all maps are open for all.
Ive got squads setup for BR2 BA’s murrica & GE and another squads for BR5.
those inbetween BR’s hardly has anything even remotely intresting.
For some histori acuraci enthusiasts I guess the BR3-4 could be intresting due to having tommies, garands and all other gizmos without a fear of facing FG42 but then again that can be achieved simply by ±0 BR5.
Dunno splitting BR5 to 2 BR’s sounds more like botfarm to BR6. While this “Less progressed” BR5 would still wipe floors with Mp43 and what else you didnt mention.
And also, I kinda consider BR 1-2 the newplayer BR’s which for obvious reason should be locked for themselfs.
But I dont expect much new players at high BR’s, bad players ? They are everywhere but not new players.
So why not just go for ±0 BR5.
I even think all we need is three total BRs that are ±0
BR1= early war gear, mostly bolt action gameplay
BR2= mid war gear, semi autos
BR3= late war heavy tanks, SFR, ARs
obviously you would end up with alot of useless gear by doing so - BUT under-armored tanks can get better mobility, under-gunned tanks can get more HEAT or special AP ammo and top choice tanks could lose their top mounted MGs and overall get less HE ammo. Weapon balance is already all over the place, so buffing some under performing guns is in no way illogical.
less BRs would fit the game much better overall, and ultimately would make balancing even easier - because right now BR placements need to consider being up tiered and facing something like Panther with a Sherman, or KV1 with a Panzer III.
So people can’t use BRIV weapons or vehicles not being able to keep up with 5 as a reason to nerf it.
Exactly this.
IMOP, which doesn’t carry any weight with the Dev’s, there would be no need for a BR6 if we had the 0/0 matchmaking we’ve been asking for as long as I can remember. If the Dev’s won’t give us a true 0/0 because of their “not enough player excuse”, you know damn well they wouldn’t be incline to add an additional BR level.
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BR 1-2-3 and BR 4-5-6
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If you’re a noob at br 2 one of two things are true
You rushed to br2 by equipping one type of br2 gear like smgs in which case you are not a noob you are an idiot
You somehow unlocked br2 and a full br2 load out in which case you are in or near having br3 unlocked. even at br3 you would still be a noob
In that case make br1 to 3 separated noob brs and only make br4 5 play each other
The only acceptable mistake is if you bought you’re way into it or wanted to play an event squad before you finished you br2 load out in which case I’m sorry for you the game has failed you you did not fail the game
BR6 would have be added at some point after the inclusion of early jet. I’d add IS-3 and T29 for the USSR and US respectively for future BR6 tank.
I guess its bit different in console lobbies, where the aim assist does most of the job and generally player “skill” is measured between none and 0.
Anyway, I find it slightly pointless to discuss about this matter on this topic.
There are two issues I see:
- BR4 vs BR5 (which I think we all agree is a massive power leap and really makes BR4 suck to play).
- Many unused weapons/vehicles that are completely outclassed by the top tier BR5 gear
IMO, ±0 BR5 doesn’t solve the 2nd issue entirely as you have a suite of weapons (specifically Germany) which will remain very sub-optimal and unused by the majority of the playerbase unless BR5 is broken up:
- FG1 vs FG2
- MKb vs STG
- Tiger I vs Tiger II
- MG 15 vs MG 42 100
- M2C vs T20
- Any BG5 SMG vs an AR
- AVS vs AVT 40 20
- Props vs Jets
Some of this cannot be balanced by changing within the current BR system without power-creeping BR4 (thus making BR3 have to deal with it) or completely reworking the weapons (which is very rare for this game historically).
I would like to see the majority of weapons be equally competitive at their BR with their peers and offer varied play style (for example, if the MKB was moved down to BR4, it would have a nice trade off with the Kiraly, one is slower but hits harder and is easier to control while the other is a CQC, high rof, higher recoil gun)
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Wouldnt the ±0 BR5 solve this issue entirely ?
Thats just how progression works?
Hence, ±0 BR5 ?
While I agree mkb / stg is a rather massive differency and theoreticly it would fit just fine in BR4.
But whats the counter of it for other nations ?
And while I wouldnt mind the every gun being competent in its BR I highly doubt its going to happen.
Great post Tooya and it only shows how other people dont really think much what they have read since I typed the same things yet you needed to reply to them.
- exacly it should be terryfing that the last choice is always the best and there is no variety with the same weapon class in one BR
- I find it intresting that you only give examples on vehicles, possible vehicoloid ?
If you are okay with your trusty G43 against 4 man with T20’s then I guess I will say nothing.
3.±0 would somewhat solve that issue but will not touch others that are as important. - Hmm tanks if you are so good with them you should know that short 75mm HEAT has no problems penning KV1. And now with weapons: Uragan SMG in br2 ( soon br3 ) is very much on par with weapons like ZK-383 or Type 100 late
- ±0 again doesnt solve the other issues ( ±0 seems like a solution to everything maybe it will also help Forum filter some people)
- Thats just straight out cope there is no answer then LOL
I cant understand how some people are danse or cant understand that changes are needed.
Seems quite normal in games with progression.
Id definitely would be disappointed to find out my stg44 after grinding thru duplicates is just as same as the mkb with tiny bit different flavour.
Vehicles usually are the biggest outcry for a reason.
I thought i suggested ±0 BR5 ? Im relatively sure in that scenario the G43 will never face t20.
Well technically if you are just good enough you can also fight with G43 against t-20’s.
Just be better.
Depends of change, yours hardly makes any sense.