so, new update released,
and i’m noticing right way, medic helmets were changed.
from:
to:
question is, why.
if they didn’t made medics stand out before, now they definitely did.
not to mention, they don’t look quite right from historical helmets too:
like, the new ones seem rather too elaborate.
is it just me?
I guess having full red cross is legally problematic. Or some stuff like that.
Perhaps (and this may vary from country to country), this may be because the use of the Red Cross symbol is restricted to use by organizations other than those concerned.
I am only familiar with Japanese law, but the commercial use of the Red Cross is regulated by law.
that doesn’t make any sense.
why leave it on the armband and backpack, but remove it from the headgears?
couldn’t they adopt the us one too instead?
p.s. " fun fact ". but nazi, ss and even hitler are aknowledged by the game.
they are called as such too
In case you are interested, here is a list of symbols that are regulated in Japan (not sure about other countries).
Awards with a white cross on a red background are not a problem. (Like the Swiss flag).
However, the problem is the red cross. This is the award of the Red Cross.
but like…
what’s the point of harmonization if the base game gets censored as well?
any… reason behind such change ?
official ones
I was a little curious, so I did some research.
Apparently, the Red Cross is monitoring symbols in games worldwide, and if you use them in a game, you will receive an angry email.
Well, I don’t mind, but Darkflow may have been scared of the legal risk.
so, apparently shoothing pilots and paratroopers when parachuting is fine,
but a png in a game it’s a riot all of a sudden?
granted, i’m perhaps the only one making a fuss out of this.
but where’s the consistency?
again, what’s the point of harmonization if the base game gets censored?
world wasn’t certainly a play ground.
and i’m sorry to these people, but combats medics were somewhat a thing too.
oh well… i’m just speechless.
The Red Cross Emblem: Protected by Canadian and International Law
Governments in Canada and around the world recognize the importance of protecting the red cross emblem from misuse. Here is a short summary of relevant legislation in Canada.
Geneva Conventions Act
The Geneva Conventions Act incorporates into Canadian law the Geneva Conventions, which are the foundation for International Humanitarian Law (IHL). IHL strives to protect the rights of civilians and those taking no active part in hostilities during times of armed conflict.
The Geneva Conventions specifically prohibit the use of the red cross emblem by any organization, individual or corporation other than the following:
- International Committee of the Red Cross
- International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies
- National Societies of the Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement
- The medical branch of the armed forces of countries signatory to the Conventions
The Canadian Red Cross Society Act
The Government of Canada passed the Canadian Red Cross Society Act in 1909, conferring legal status on the Society. The Act also supports the intention of the Geneva Conventions, and protects the red cross emblem in Canada.
Section 4(2) of the Act states that no one (individuals or corporations) can use the red cross emblem without the Society’s written permission. This extends to anything that could be mistaken for the red cross emblem, such as a burgundy cross, or a red cross that is slanted.
Section 4(1) expressly forbids any one (individuals or corporations) from using the red cross name or emblem to falsely claim that they are representing or working with the Red Cross for the purposes of soliciting, collecting or receiving money or material.
Trade-marks Act
The Trade-marks Act regulates trademarks in Canada. While the red cross emblem is not a registered trademark in Canada, it is protected by the Trade-marks Act. Section 9 of the Act lists ‘marks’ that are specifically prohibited from use in connection with business, either as a trade-mark or otherwise. The list includes the red cross, red crescent, and the red crystal and extends to any mark likely to be mistaken for them. Section 11 of the Act reinforces this prohibition.
Are you blind? It’s clearly a white cross in middle of red 
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It also happened whit halo
(Maybe they can solve it if medic get a swiss chesse as grenade, no red cross, just swiss medics 
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Filthy Canadians!!!
Medics are a good thing and stand for a good thing, with the red cross/crescent being internationally recognized symbols that everyone knows and that signify places/tools/vehicles/personnel dedicated to safe lives - so why would anyone in their right mind be opposed to that being correctly depicted in a game?
Seems somehow counterproductive. So I agree give players the proper red crosses back!
(I do agree with @ErikaKalkbrenner that the new ones are just plain ugly - instead of those I rather have no cross showing at all).
I have no objection to this change
After all, wearing a life-saving uniform but using SMG in gunfight isn’t historically accurate.
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I rather have it that they actually give medics a pistol only (I do agree they should not really carry SMGs).
One important thing to keep in mind though: Prior to 1949 the Geneva Conventions did NOT specify that medics are only allowed to carry a weapon to protect themselves and their patients.
fun fact:
it took them around half a year to supposedly change these medic helmets because of apparently controversial actual red crosses.
and they also changed the m41 afrika hat from the premium beretta paratrooper squad,
because of the windmil in less than a hour since it was introduced.
to a censured version ( " fair enough " ).
yet the frikkin plane tree camouflage is broken to this day, that looks like a pea dot instead since the frikkin beginning of the merge
and despite 7 reports, FOR AN ITEM CAN STILL BE BOUGHT, OF WHICH PEOPLE BOUGHT IT IN THE PAST, still no fixes.
really pisses me off.
and beyond my comprehension.
Indeed - as far as I am aware the laws in Germany in regards to NS icons displayed in works of art were chanced, as they now include computer games. So developers now actually can use the proper historic symbols in games set during WW2. Using no symbols or some weird a-historical “standins” seems pointless somehow (especially since showing historic symbols, in a game that is set in a historic period, does not glorify anything).
while german law was expanded to include games into that law, games are still subject to rating by german rating institution which may still ban games if they glorify nazis. generally it allows nazi symbols in single player if they are used in historical context, but usage in multiplayer games is unclear.
problem is that devs immediately assumed that nazi symbols in multiplayer are not allowed cause either COD or BF in one of its games had nazi symbols in single player, but had them censored in multiplayer. considering that one of the main selling points of the enlisted was historical accuracy, i believe that it could most probably be allowed to have those symbols under german law, but devs didnt even try to present their case to the rating institution.
so nazi symbols in game are debatable cause of recent changes in german law, while red cross isnt cause its usage has been protected by international law and international red cross is protecting their right to its usage.
