Who OK'd this? (experience from single-player matches NEEDS TO GO)

Well obviously you complained bc it was brought up. But by your logic of having the option to opt out of something, the a-historical nature of said thing doesn’t matter and shouldn’t be complained about. As was the case with the FG-42 and the BAR. Which ofc, you can opt out of custom lobbies so any a-historical messes they create shouldn’t matter and shouldn’t be complained about. By that logic at least

Edit: Wait also, I mean you can’t necessarily even opt out of the lobbies with these FG-42 or BAR squads. You can just by not playing Normandy. But if you wanna play Normandy you’re stuck with these metas. So honestly, it’s much easier to opt out of the custom lobbies rather than the Normandy lobbies with these metas

Em, what? My only problem are players and not historical/ahistorical things.

That’s… Not what you’ve been complaining about tho? You’re using history as your means against the custom lobbies(and the XP gain as well) and saying that you don’t mind the a-historical nature of things like the BAR and FG-42. That doesn’t sound like your problem is with players there man

Where?

Bcs it’s already ingame and there will be no go back. You accept it or not but the fact will not change.
I don’t see how BAR breaks balance and it has different role than M2. While cqc is more important, BAR will be better on big maps like Airport if opps not clever enough.

If you want a constructive, facts-based argument, you’d have better luck in “Suggestions,” but I’ll keep arguing opinion with you since that’s where we are and what we’re doing.

I can’t read russian, so I can’t tell if you made facts-based arguments there, but I’ll take it on faith. Just because one person disagrees with you doesn’t mean your opinion isn’t valid, and just because you don’t like my opinions doesn’t mean I’m asking for Allies buffs until we can’t lose. If you’re arguing with me, argue with me, without making generalizations that don’t fit my stated opinion.

You’re right, people don’t have to agree on their opinions. We certainly don’t.

The practice room only goes so far, though. Ironically, custom lobbies are the perfect place to do targeted testing on game elements that might be imbalanced. Get some friends, make a custom normandy lobby, do nothing but trooper squads and tanks. M2 Carbine vs FG42, Panther vs Jumbo, and see who wins. Bet it’s the axis, every damn time.

Both beaches heavily favor the defenders, and there’s a lot of other imbalanced maps that cause issues from time to time.

So we shouldn’t discuss potential solutions to these problems because they’re not the biggest one? That’s nonsense.

Yeah, if it’s not in the greyzone.

Greyzone camping with the panther is a low-skill activity with a high reward, bombing a panther is a high-skill activity with mediocre rewards. These are not the same, that’s not balance.

you know the greyzone line is more or less straight, yeah? Tell me how to flank a tank that’s behind a magic deathwall. I’ll wait.

What? I can’t understand you. I pointed out exactly what you did, but laugh off your nonsense all you want, this is the mess room after all.

But only with the Fallschirmjager, and only one per nine-man section in place of an MG34. That’s what it was designed for, that’s how it was used. They way it’s been implemented is ahistorical, even if the weapon itself is historical.

PzIII Ausf J vs T-50 would be fine if the T-50 had it’s historically accurate armor thickness, or even the armor from war thunder. As it is, it’s a little OP because it’s basically a t-34 from the front.

Dunk 'em

This whole post is about custom lobbies, and I’ll remind you that I’m not the one complaining about them. Keep your opinions straight.

So you didn’t say this?

Edit: After the fact, I realize that wasn’t you. My bad.

2 Likes

Holy shit honestly my bad here I’ll own this :sweat_smile: I was mistaking you for the OP I believe. Who was the one who said that ridiculous shit. My bad indeed man! :laughing:

2 Likes

Lmao I mixed him up with the OP as well :sweat_smile: it’s all good

1 Like

Same. Lear’s pic isn’t a cat most times I load the topic, just an orange circle with the letter “L”, and OP is just an orange circle with a “J.” Tired brain got confused.

2 Likes

Same exact thing happened here honestly. Man I needa hit the sack soon lol

1 Like

@1035772 I owe you an apology. Because I got you confused with JohnHathorne (Op) I didn’t realize that you never once made any argument or gave any opinion about XP gains in custom lobbies, and I argued hard against a point you never made.

I still disagree with you about the FG42, if it needs balanced and how, but I’m not gonna lose any sleep over it. I’m gonna go do that now, thanks for the talk.

2 Likes

@Squidocide @63721391 no problem, don’t worry.

2 Likes

I bet newplayers rather quit then farm helpless bots hours after hours.

If people want even decent pve experience they wont download pvp fps shooter that dont even mention/advertise pve content. Everbody who installs this game does it cause pvp content and those couple people who only enjoy pve are in wrong game.

3 Likes

Just like this : the new players come to PVP and see they been massacred and so they come to custom game for some Exp and when they come to lvl 9 or 10 (it take for 2-3 days), they come back and kick some ass :partying_face: (it just my imagination but who know :rofl: ) if not have custom game they dont know where to have some exp and not been slain.

2 to 3 days for lvl 9 and 10? Buddy, I WISH it would take that long for these lvls :sweat_smile: without premium that is. Any lvls after that it’ll take waaaay longer without premium. Even for a player who is good and skilled at the game.

Maybe more, i dont know, i guess so, i pass lvl 9 or 10 last month, so i barely remember.
Come to lvl 9 maybe in a week ? wow, that is long and they will quit, yeah, it is the sad future we can’t deny. :pensive: if there have better matchmaking, this will be nice

But I don’t think people are gonna be going to the custom lobbies for this sole “PVE” experience. Most players see these custom lobbies and think, “Oh I can finally host my own games on these campaigns and play the maps I want.”. Or at least that’s what I’ve gathered from how most viewed this before it was implemented. But heck, even then others including myself were interested in the idea of there being PVE in Enlisted.

I mean it basically has it implemented right into it’s core mechanics with the AI Squads and whatnot. So no I don’t think this is the wrong game at all that people who enjoy PVE to come and try and have some fun. I mean, isn’t that what the game mostly is even in the normal squads mode anyways? Sure we more often than not encounter players, but the core gameplay itself is rooted in PVE even though the game doesn’t advertise it. So come on man it’s not that outrageous or far fetched to see PVE in a game like this. Especially since it’s still in beta and there is plenty of time to add all sorts of modes and options.

Those who like PVP can stick to the normal modes, while those who would like a more custom experience or dare I say, a “PVE” experience, can go to the custom lobbies and have fun there. This isn’t a problem honestly and only serves to bring in more players. But even in these custom lobbies, can’t players also join the enemy teams as well? Not just yours? I’ve seen the option to join the enemy team whenever I’m making a custom lobby but haven’t actually tried joining another player’s lobby yet. So is it actually solely PVE or is there also a PVP element to it that just probably won’t get utilized much? That’s a genuine question that would be awesome if you could provide an answer for. Since I couldn’t find anything answering this in the news post or elsewhere :sweat_smile:

1 Like

Yeah man the progression in this game takes fuckin AGES. I’ve been playing since the end of last year and I’m barely lvl 15 in Moscow :sweat_smile: And that’s with me being in the TOP 5 on the leaderboard most matches. So yeah even then it takes a while without premium which is sad man. I totally agree with ya there. Campaign lvl based matchmaking does sound like a good idea on paper. But idk if the playerbase is big enough so support such matchmaking :confused:

Edit: Oh and to be fair, my progress in Moscow is 1.) my highest lvl across all campaigns, and 2.) this is the lvl I’ve gotten to ever since they did this one progression wipe before the game went OBT. Ever since that wipe I’ve been grinding for months. But I’m still barely lvl 15 in Moscow! Even less in other campaigns

1 Like

really ? i just play a month and 2 week and i lvl 23 of both side in Normandy, lvl 11 both side for Tunisia and lvl 8 both side for Moscow, i just buy Premium in nearest Discount. :sweat_smile:

I think this game’s grinding is not that hard , if u want something grinding super long and hard also like this game welcome to Heroes and Generals, fking i hate grinding in that game so much :confounded:

1 Like

Ah well then there’s your answer bud, you bought premium! That’s how much of the grind it takes away from the game man. And that’s a problem! Look at me and how long I’ve been playing, and I’m still nowhere near the endgame :sweat_smile: For any campaign that is.

Oh tho I’ve played H&G before :o used to play the hell out of it a few years ago when it was really popping. Played the soviets in that game and I admittedly did spend money there. Was worth it tho after I built my beautiful Mosin 91/30 sniper rifle :ok_hand:

Edit: I remember the grind tho when not paying irl money. That shit, was tedious!

1 Like

But i remember i play it free for a month and just in Normandy campaign where i have a bunch of M1 Garand and Gewehr after that the discount has coming when PS4 crossplay and i buy it for a whole year :rofl: , pls dont tell my parents

1 Like