Where are the Canadian Forces?

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I am a Canadian player of Enlisted and an enjoyer of History.
In the past I have applaud Gaijin for their dedication to representation of armed forces through out history in their games. However it has now been 3 years since the game launched and with all the new content and additions I find myself asking, “Where are the rest of the allied forces?”

Now I understand when many think WW2 its easy to think “USA vs Nazi Germany” due to pop culture osmosis, but since the game launched, Russia and Japan were added all at one point on the Axis side, while the USA remains the only Allied Force in the game.
I understand that some things take time but I’ve seen little to no rumblings or attempts to bring this to Gaijin’s attention.

Now the Allies were a large force so I’m going to focus on the Canadian Forces and give reasons why they should be added.

  • Canada joined before the US
    Within 2 weeks of WW2 beginning Canada joined the conflict on September 10th 1939. During this time Canadian intelligence dispatched agents to the US to convince them the Axis was a global threat and would not stop at Europe, sadly to no avail until after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

  • First on the beach, only force to reach final objective (D-Day)
    On June 6th 1944 the Canadian Forces reminded everyone they were a force to be reckoned with as their boats were the first to make landfall on Juno Beach and rush the pillboxes, in less than 2 hours they blazed the trail to allow tanks and heavy armored support to roll in behind them. By the end of the day, they had reached and captured the cities making them the only force on D-Day to reach their final objective.

  • Léo Major
    Born in Quebec, Léo Major is one of Canada’s greatest military Heroes, who made his mark on the war when he first saw action on D-Day as a scout.
    His first notable achievement on that day was during his recon behind enemy lines where he captured a German Halftrack carrying a large number of secret code books, escorting them, the vehicle and its crew back to friendly lines.
    But probably his most famous feat, was the liberation of German occupied town by himself, capturing the entire occupying force and saving the lives of its residents before friendly forces bombarded the town.
    He would also serve in the Korean War in 1950, only 29 years old but recruited as a veteran with a special skill set and was the only Canadian to earn the distinguished conduct medal in 2 separate wars.

  • The Devil’s Brigade, The First Spec Ops Unit.
    During WW2 one of the biggest thorns in the side of Germany was the elite commando unit known as “The Devil’s Brigade,” also known by their nickname “The Black Devils.”
    This joint Canadian/US unit was the first Special Service Force, only accepting members with extensive survival experience.
    Hunters, mountain climbers, lumberjacks, parachuters, trappers, game wardens and even skiers were brought in to create this unmatched unit of allied soldiers.
    They were also known to leave behind calling cards on the bodies of the enemy that read, “The Worst is Yet to Come” in German.
    These men were assigned the most dangerous missions, one of their most iconic being the battle for the million dollar hill. After repeated failed attempts to dislodge German forces from the mountain tops south-east of Rome, The Black Devils were sent in to dig them out personally. With a force less than 10 times the size of the combined allied forces, they did what the rest failed to do and took the mountain tops.

These are only a few of Canada’s contributions to the second World War and yet they were some of the biggest impacts that I feel deserve to be represented in this game. Not Just Canada’s but the rest of the Allied Forces as well. This is probably my favorite WW2 shooter and I normally don’t enjoy multiplayer shooters either, so please Gaijin give the rest of the allies the recognition they deserve.

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It really shouldn’t take a lot of effort for DF to just add a bunch of uniform options, which would mean people could outfit squads to be Canadian, Australian, Italian ect. That would actually be one of the easier fixes or additions to the game.

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The Germans have Italian squads available, like the Machine Gun regiments complete with badges and Italian voice lines.
The easiest umbrella fix would be change US to “Allies” and add Canadian, British and other squads from the rest of the allies.

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Yeah, it should have been Allies all along.

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It really shouldn’t take a lot of effort for DF to just add a bunch of uniform options, which would mean people could outfit squads to be Canadian, Australian, Italian ect.

yeah a little for at least a dozen nations over a dozen classes and multiple squads with variations and options you are talking about hundreds of pieces of clothing, meaning several time the clothing already available yep sounds like a small amount of work to me,

its not about what was or was not done but a cultural impact and player base
i am sorry but Canadians make up 1 percent or less of enlisted players, even if we double that 2 percent of players who would like to see it, its why there are so many Thomson’s and bars in game already

sure a squad or two of Canadians great, but adding Canada as a full customization is close to the bottom

Yeah, it should have been Allies all along. ---- no this petty but if russia/ussr is its own faction it stays us

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Aussie here G’day to our fellow Commonwealth Canadian mates. :slight_smile:

Thank you for your post, though its a shame we have to make posts like these in the first place.

Fully support this.

Many times I’ve specifically requested AT LEAST one Canadian squad for the Ross rifle, along with Australian squad for Owen gun and British Indian squad for the Vickers-Berthier since our countries were the only ones that used each weapon, respectively.
(New Zealanders also used the Owen but you get the idea)

I’ve also requested that the current fantasy D Day map be replaced by an authentic Juno beach.

It would be more appropriate to Enlisted gameplay as well as provide recognition by a game for literally any other beach to Omaha.

As you mention and Ive written before, Canadian forces were the first to land on D Day. The newsreel clip of them opening the doors to their landing craft with the damaged house in the background was the first pictures the world saw of the Normandy landings.

I’d also mention that the British and Commonwealth armies couldnt have succeeded without Canadian vehicle manufacturers namely Canadian Military Pattern trucks. I have suggested one of these be a foldered APC as a rank I unarmed APC such as the Ford F30 and specifically UK-Commonwealth option besides the American Studebaker.

For rank III APCs I have suggested the M3 Halftrack for USA (Currently USSR premium) and either an Australian OR Canadian Universal Carrier. Our two countries had different variants of the UC, which also differed from the standard British UC which is currently limited to an event vehicle.

One more thing: Apparently the current Sten gun model in game is the Canadian version. Id suggest the addition of the Mk I British Sten and made the Mark II Sten assault squad Canadian.

The Allied tech tree appearance options should add freely available uniforms for all the Commonwealth countries. Further customisation would use appearance options.

SilverN1ghtW0lf you might have more suggestions for specific Canadian uniforms.

For my own country Australia Id suggest the default option for Pacific for example be the uniform currently available with guerillas and a mixture of digger hats and Brodie helmets. Then if you wanted extra bandoliers or an officer’s peaked cap or so forth youd use appearance options.

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And I would fully support the addition of the Australians as well.
I understand why Russia is its own faction, the battle of Stalingrad was Russia vs Germany when they were no longer allies.
Still though the Germans get Italian squads in their enlistments so I really see no reason why other allied squads can be added the same way.

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I just saw Canada so I like.

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same, I do hope we arent still looking to split the playerbase more, just give the Western allies more customisation options, same for germans and italians.

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Well yes, It’s all what’s really needed. Because Canada used a healthy mix of united stater and British weaponry and vehicles. Most are already in game; there’s no need to even make a subfaction here because the stuff would be redundant. It would be as boring as a chinese faction that only uses copy pasted and modified equipment.

But cosmetics would be great. For example, in game there’s already a gold order Sherman that is a Canadian one, the Sherman “Bomb” (currently displayed in Sherbrooke, QC). I wanted to create a black berrets guys squad… but there’s no cosmetics for it…

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I think the turner squad is Canadian???

But yeah…moar commonwealth!!!

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Yes an no…

The weapon if I recall was used by Canada… but they made the squad usa. With usa voices.

(We talk about the semi auto rifle radiomen premium?)

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Yeah. I wanted to get it and didnt at the same time…cos US uniforms, commonwealth rifle

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Pretty much…

It’s a really good rifle. But. Usa boys screaming like “woo girls” :pensive:

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I know there’s British UK squads but I have yet to unlock them so I don’t know if they have voice lines like the Italians do on the German side.
Though its still strange to me the whole faction is USA when they have the British there, at least with Germany I kinda get it, cuz the Axis powers would eventually turn on Germany so it really was them against the world.
But like would it kill them to make the faction “Allies” to open it up to the rest of the countries that served?

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Back during Tunisia campaign, we could buy British voiced soldiers… I’ve kept many as legacy soldiers, you cannot get new ones really. That and fairbairn sykes knives I use to identify them in my reserve.

Devs said they were working on a cosmetic way to change soldiers nationality and voices.

Could take years… :unamused:

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Lovely, honestly I’d even take adding the British as another faction and adding the Canadian squads to them. Least then its another allied force.

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yep never heard of Ostridge and hungry, yep only German mustache mans birth place

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Not sure what your problem is?

“A dozen nations” hmmm Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, British India. They are the main ones and thats only 5, not 12.

The thing you dont seem to understand is that British and Commonwealth uniforms are very similar. It’s not like the French or Finnish or Chinese where we would need whole new designs.

The main thing that changes is the hats, like Australian, NZ, British India and South Africa desert uniforms are all pretty much the same tan shirt and trousers.

Also Im not sure why people ignore this but DF Already has Australian and New Zealand assets. There are 3 or 4 event/premium Australian squads and one New Zealand.
We dont need new models, they literally just have to add the slouch hat/digger hat and lemon squeezer from those squads to appearance options.

Note that this was already done with the premium Sten Mk III squad where the British Army peaked cap was made freely available in appearance options.

We also have good Australian uniforms currently in game as a tech tree squad (Guerillas). Super easy to make those battle tunics available to all Allied squads.

Now Im not saying all guerilla uniforms should be available for all squads, like the German and Soviet guerilla clothes would be inappropriate since they are civilian clothes. But the Australian guerillas have a standard army uniform.

Hell one could use the existing British Tunisia uniform, just let us use the slouch hat/digger hat.

Now again Ill refer to our friend SilverN1 to talk more about the specifics of Canadian uniforms but to my knowledge we just take a regular green British uniform and write CANADA on the side. Is that really THAT hard to do???

British India would be the ‘most’ amount of work, since along with turbans we’d need Id say at least 3 Indian appearance faces/hands. Nevertheless those arent too much of an ask.

You think that every single squad class needs a new uniform. Not true. As I said in my post, each Commonwealth country would have a default uniform for each environment where necessary. Thats it.
No one expects a specific Canada assault, Canada machine gun, Canada engineer uniform.

Its just one uniform or hat for different climates and players can work out how they want to use those.

So to use my countrymen as an example:

  • Pacific would be the current guerilla green tunic with a randomly assigned digger hat or Brodie helmet and trousers.

  • Tunisia/desert would be the current guerilla tan tunic with slouch hat or Brodie. OR they could use pre existing British Tunisia shirt-trousers.

  • Normandy/Europe Id suggest the green ‘Pacific’ tunic again with slouch/digger or Brodie helmet.

  • Bulge would just be British winter gear, again with the option of a slouch or digger hat to denote them as Australians.

I checked Australian soldiers uniforms in Greece/Crete and they were regular green uniforms similar to the tunic currently used by Agas guerillas in game.

Now we see from that that DF literally already has all the assets for the option of Australian squads in every theatre. New Zealanders would be the same, just players would choose a lemon squeezer hat.

For Canada take one default pre existing British uniform for the four theatres, write CANADA on the shoulders and bam, youve got Canadian soldiers.

Truly I really cant understand the hate against these ideas. Its basically just laziness on DF part.

And finally to your point about “Canadians only make up 1% of the playerbase”. Well firstly Id like to see proof of that statistic. But it is ultimately irrelevant since I have seen multiple people from various different countries agreeing with or actively requesting the addition of Australian, Canadian and other Commonwealth uniforms.

Australia, New Zealand and Canada for example might be smaller markets then USA or Russia but are markets nonetheless. (refering back to my previous point youre also wrongfully assuming that no Americans, British or Europeans want to play as Commonwealth).

India of course is a very large market and Im sure anyone from India/Pakistan/Bangladesh here would really appreciate recognition of British India in WWII and being able to play as their countrymen.

One final point. You say that customisation is close to the bottom. I would ask DF why? Players have been requesting these options for ages. One of my arguments all along has been that DF decided themselves to add specifically Canadian, Australian/New Zealand and British Indian weapons. So why not have the soldiers to go with them??
We dont even need any ‘new’ squads, just some pretty minor customisation options made available.

DF has the time to create friggin space aliens and samurai armour, I think they have time to copy paste a hat from a premium squad into TT customisation or add a CANADA patch to existing uniforms…

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