When +-1 BR for BR3?

BR1 only meets BR1 and BR2

BR2 only meets BR1 and BR3

BR4 only meets BR3 and BR5

BR5 only meets BR5 and sometimes dunks on BR3


Why is BR3 the only BR destined to suffer being mega dunked by BR5?

Why do I deserve to get giga bonked by BR5 fantasy weapons with fairy tale stats just because I dared to equip a Garand or M1A1 Thompson and click “join any faction”?


Please stop bullying BR3, give it ±1 BR bracket too.

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Even though I dislike the fact that BR3 can still meet BR5, I have to underline that seeing BR5 matches while using a BR3 line-up is now extremly rare for USSR and USA vs Germany.

The problem is Japan vs USA. Japan has fewer players and their BR4 is inexistant so no one plays it, thus we still have the old matchmaking for BR3 vs BR5 as Japan vs USA which is definitely infuriating

Yeah that’s basically what I mean by “Why do I deserve to get giga bonked by BR5 fantasy weapons with fairy tale stats”.

US 3 vs Japan 5 happens way too often and it doesn’t help that the things that kill me are origami paper.

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I cant remember the last time I saw BR 5 as BR 3 USA. I know people complain about that but in my last 20 ish games USA BR 3 it maybe only happened once.
Probably just server and timezone related but funny how everyone but me keeps finding BR 5 matches.

BR 3 only get to play against BR 5, you never get a lower BR to fight, game has serious problems on playerbase, we are very little few players left and noobs are not staying long enough to understand the game.

The last screenshot contest got something like 100 contesters… Is not like the game is dying, is just not living.

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BR3 being able to dunk on BR2 is not helping retain newbies either.

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BR3-BR4 matches sometimes have BR5 players as well, but that usually means one or two for each team while the rest are BR3 or maybe some BR4 guys.
Its probably because there are not enough BR4 players because they themselves don’t want to be raped by SF spam.

No

BR 1 should fight… BR 1. (which is currently the case)
BR 2 should fight BR 2
BR 3 should fight BR 3
BR 4 - BR 4
and BR 5- BR 5.

Uptiers and downtiers ruined war thunder. Dont let them ruin enlisted.
Fix it.
It’s that simple.

Darkflow: JUST… DO IT!

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This is sole reason I “DON’T” play level three Allies much anymore, even though it was my favorite faction and level to play. But when I do decide to play Allies at level three and get the Japanese I will scan my peepers on the kill chart scrolling on the right and when I see my first level five weapon, I desert. DF might want to consider that this is one of the reasons that they don’t have enough players between Allies and Japanese. My BAR A2 is competitive at level five, my M1 Garand is not against all the fully auto crap that you face in level five.

The worst thing about it is that I now almost exclusively play Germans or Soviets because of crap like this, and DF needs more players playing Allies and Japanese, not German and Soviets. Some here say “I like the challenge” being uptiered, but I would say the majority don’t. NTM those who want this challenge can merely add one level five weapon and boom, they get their challenge, where those who want to play level three on equal footing “DON"T GET THAT OPTION”.

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Thank you for your comment.

Hear! Hear!

I also find it rather hilarious that when I moved from BR III Allies to BR V Allies, so far Ive never had a battle against Japan.

I also thank you for calling out how while the BARA2 is alright, the Garand for instance is not (let alone Lee Enfields).
Like the Owen gun in certain situations still holds its own at BR V. But that doesnt mean all BR II weapons are fine at BR V (not to mention player ability).

Furthermore, as you allude to, hey maybe a player chose BR III precisely because they want to play at BR III? NOT BR V??? (mind blown)

I too swapped to Germans having grown tired of Allies and being constantly stomped.

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I love level three allies, against the level 3/4 Germans, but not level 5 Japs. :rofl: You know, I am 60 and have been playing video gams since Pong back in the late 1970’s :roll_eyes:. I have bought and played 'every" Medal of honor, call of duty and Sniper elite (except 5 cuz my system was incompatible).

My suggestion for DF would be to just go 1/1 with allies/japan and create better game opposition bots. So, when there are not enough players just let them be filled with bots, even if that means the entire team. Personally, I would rather play against somewhat competitive Bots then be offered as a sacrificial lamb to some level five cannon fodder match. You can’t tell me that in the year of our Lord 2025 that Dark Force cannot make a better game bot then a game made in the late 1980’s or 1990’s.

That being said, people have been complaining to Dark Force for the past couple of years about this, and nothing from Dark Force other then the “we don’t have enough players” crap. Well, we still don’t have enough players and I’m guessing that number at level three allies is slowly dropping. I have heard from some of my friends that play Japan that they don’t play level three now, just level five. So, DF can pat themselves on the back for killing off level three Allies/Japan. Do they care?
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They are indeed level 3 equipment least suitable for fighting against level 5
Most of America’s infantry weapons are terrible
In addition to the M2.T20.1918 series
M1 is too scattered
The Garand has the highest recoil and the second lowest magazine capacity.
The M8, which uses such a bad Garand as its own, is at level 4.
Most submachine guns sacrifice accuracy and rate of fire for high damage
How much value does a submachine gun have when it can only be used as a semi-automatic?

Under the condition that the player’s intelligence is normal
Most weapons except the bolt action rifle have at least ±2 ability.
Only some low-performance aircraft and most tanks need this classification.

Mate, a musket will kill someone just as good as an M16.
There’s footage of an Ottoman cannon from a museum being used in I believe it was the siege of Aleppo in 2014.

BUT that doesn’t mean we go around giving muskets and 17th century cannons to armies fighting enemies with modern assault weapons and tanks.

Sorry but WTF is the point of BRs if people like you think that everyone should just fight everyone.

There is ZERO reason that someone with bolt actions and a couple of crappy semi autos should be put against a whole team of made up prototype assault rifles. ZERO.

Why do you use manual and semi-automatic?
My team is always automated.
The most important point
Don’t always attack from the front



A previous post already mentioned how the Garand is NOT capable at BR V.

I note you have premium squads which is different to a F2P player.

And most importantly, you didnt answer any of my questions.

Please dont waste your time saying ‘skill issue’.

The only skill issue here is a game developer who cant count.

BR III should VS BR III. Full stop. End of story.

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I have answered your question
If your eyes don’t see
I can say it again
You can choose not to use manual and semi-automatic

The only ones I don’t have automatic weapons are the anti-tank guys on the trucks.
Every infantryman in the Signal Corps has an automatic pistol

My teams are all activity teams
Newcomers can get it from the box
And the communication team is not a necessary option at the moment.

This is the result of my battle in level 5 environment using this team

BR3 really should only face BR3 or maybe BR4.

Against BR2 you’re pretty overpowered . Against BR5 you’re extremely underpowered.

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The current BR system doesn’t work on more than one level.

I’m playing jap on BR 1 and is constantly getting hammered by BR 3 with m1918s, thompsons and people spamming grenades from their rifles everywhere.

This is despite the statements about BR 1 never to meet anything higher than BR 2.

If anything it scares the newbies away.

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