What is the logic in deserting when you have 60 kills?

Well, like most of what they do, that HALF change is HALF assed :stuck_out_tongue:

Marder H will remain worthless forever.

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The logic is quite simple. Because he’s allowed to do so without any real punishment whatsoever.

As long as there are not going to be any penalties, people will keep spontaneously deserting. The reason for desertion can be basically anything.

But we were promised to get such punishments (which means basically nothing, since we were promised to get super Pershing and APC camos as well, literally a year ago. And nothing happened since then), so hopefully one day they’ll implement some meaningful penalties. They should take inspiration from WT.

the common fallacy here is that players owe their time to other random people on the internet and if a player leaves its “selfish”.

true is: loyalty only works symmetrical, your team only deserves your time, ie you working for the team, when this team works for you.
teams in enlisted need to keep 4-6 spawn points up for every single objective as the minimum for proper game play, especially proper team work. >90% of enlisted teams dont manage to even constantly have 1 spawn per objective.

such teams are by any definition selfish and exploit the discipline and time of the few people being responsible and social in the game and therefore by their own behavior dont deserve the time of hard working players.

edit:
spare me all the low IQ “desertion bad, other players have to do all the work for MEEEEE”.
i see how discussion about desertion are filled with 99% emotional whining and circle jerk retardation.
personal responsibility especially on a higher social level seems to be way above the heads of the average online gaming whiner.

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Peak hypocrisy.

It doesn’t matter. They should implement penalties for desertion similar to penalties in WT.

I really couldn’t care less if desertion is justified or not. It’s not good for the game as a whole.

there is no bigger penalty than playing with shit players… i was close to rage quitting few times today cause people have absolutely no brain. people not building rally points, people not defending/attacking cap points and had one game where idiot stayed on APC not moving when enemy team was defusing the bomb and i could have spawned there and killed enemy player.

having shit games is what is not good for the game.

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Yes, that’s definitely what happened in this case. A guy who haven’t bothered to build a single rally point was a victim of bad team :(((.

my comment is 100% objective, that means 0% hypocrisy.
youre throwing around words you dont understand and instead of using arguments just post more selfish BS opinions.
dont be surprised that every normal person thinks this forum is full with strange creatures :joy:

Feel free to desert then. Literally nobody is going to stop you.
But you shouldn’t be allowed to do it regularly and without punishment.

WT solved this issue perfectly. Enlisted should just copy their system.

considering he is still blue, he probably disconnected at last minute after there were no respawns left. not exactly desertion…

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In that case he wouldn’t be punished if WT desertion penalties were implemented.

Yet another example of how perfect they are.

yet they would not work in enlisted cause enlisted doesnt have everything WT has.

Yes, they would. :man_shrugging:

But feel free to name some pseudo reasonings for why you believe desertion is justified.

The reality is that players simple dessert for any kind of most pathetic reasons. In your case, it’s shit teams. Whatever, okay.

Literally nobody should stop you from deserting. But you should be punished for continuous abuse of it. If you dessert 3-5 times per gaming session, then it’s simply not okay. And you should not be allowed to cripple the match making with your spoiled attitude.

You are intentionally bypassing the system at the expense of properly performing players.

faction stacking is most obvious one. i would either stop playing any non stacked faction or just quit the game entirely if i was punished for deserting while playing underdog faction.

deserting is just a way for people to deal with terrible matches caused by flawed game mechanisms.

then they should introduce SBMM cause unbalanced matches cripple it way more than one player deserting.

Desertion is literally one of contributing factors of faction stacking being more prominent. It’s definitely not solution for it.

you are mixing cause and effect. tell me how desertion made game worse when all veterans were grinding KT just after merge? or US month after merge? or japan after type hei AR update? or US after t20 update?

when you have 10 competent veteran players in one team grinding new equipment and 10 newbies in other team, tell me how it makes for a good gaming experience? do players in underdog faction need to take beating all the time by way more skilled team not to get punished? do you think that those players will happily play the game or quit it and play something less frustrating?

We’ve gotten rid of this most aggressive faction imbalance since the developers scrapped the idea of asymmetrical ticket balancing (which veterans have always taken advantage of. And the developers just weren’t able to react fast enough to the current situation).

Since merge, high BR Japan was always stacked. After merge, I haven’t played a single match against non stacked high BR Japan.
So I think this particular perspective of yours is just distorted.

I haven’t noticed any extreme faction stacking for at least a few months by now.

And once they solve the 4 stack issue (Which I think is the biggest balance distortion right now.), i will most likely have zero problems with team balance.

Ill just point out that warthunder hasnt solved it :stuck_out_tongue:

Players get around it by only taking 1 tank and 1 plane into the game haha.

Warthunder has its own issue of “one and done” players, which is often half the team

lots of fun :expressionless: (often snowballs)

That’s not a desertion + you couldn’t do it in enlisted anyway.

no it isnt. people who played normandy went to grind KT after merge(i know cause i was one of them). also i havent noticed japan being stacked on high BR when i played US before japan BR5 update.

yeah no extreme faction stacking, just non extreme ones. here is 2 matches from today…


totally balanced…

Yeah, and where exactly is the imbalance? I honestly don’t see it.