i missed the days those were like bolties
i dont say they need a buff in damage but something is strange
either visual recoil or dispersion.
what do you think ?
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Lock BR1-2.
Huge buff to SA, perhaps even ~20dmg OHK cqc.
Ba → SA → SF quite logical progress.
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Imo some buff to dispersion is resonable.
But I’m very against any damage buff to make them OHK.
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Thats least they could do.
I wouldnt mind, since BR3-5 games still exists.
Not only would major buff to SA make it logical progress from BA to SA.
But give much needed pewwpeww power for lower tier weapons against high tier crap.
Obviously, only if they lock the BR1-2 noobhaven.
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Imo isue is not SA rifles being weak but SF rifles and vitality being too strong.
And buffing SA only moves the problem down the BR instead of fixing it. Now SF make SA obsolete, after the change SA will make BA obsolete.
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the stupid vitality perk should go away.
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The entire game would require overhaul in weapons / equipments, I agree there.
Preferably SF rifles would have high recoil, something that requires a little bit more than point and click.
Kind of high risk high reward.
But we know the playerbase of the game, there aint a single game where you wont end up wondering is half of the people controlling theyr soldiers with joystick or steering wheel & pedals.
Sure, but thats kinda how progress go.
STG44 makes mkb obsolete and so on.
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Recoil and dispersion should be reduced. Right now if I was playing BR III - V I would choose SF over SA every time because SF is just flat out better.
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Agree
Imo it’s not the same because both of them are in the same category. So it’s “the same but better”.
In case of SA vs BA it’s basically a removal of a weapon class, with different characteristics and a different playstyle.
The same as SF vs SA is now. So I don’t understand why one is a problem but the other isn’t while they are exactly the same issue.
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i would choose a boltie over SA. even over SF.
i can shoot you from far greater distances being acurate and kill.
semi is awful in long distances.
semi auto snipers ? what is the point exactly ? 
just give me my boltie with 5 rounds and im sure i will kill 5 guys
maybe a damage buff would be good
in case of the T20 the pseudo M14
well i dont how it is in real life
but i know that the M14 kicks like a mule so i dont understand why the T20 should be a smooth shooter.
Could replace it with smg, obviously people ditch the beretta once the stg44 gets in picture.
Kind of, but progress as well as thats pretty much the current situation.
Higher tier weapons makes lowers quite obsolete.
Sure, currently the differency between SA / BA is debatable.
But imo, buffing SA to make it competent even against higher tiers is better choice than keeping it somewhat inferior to leave room for BA.
I guess thats the reason why automatic rifles were ditched, avs / avt.
Somewhat “light” weapons with rifle round just aint really practical.
Bar / FG sure does kick too but far as I know both are by far more controllable.
But still not very practical.
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intelligent solution: decrease dispersion for Bolties SAs & MGs.
making all weapons more realistic, giving them logical buffs and keeping a reasonable weapons balance overall.
the fact that you can miss bolt action shots 1 m in front of you simply because you hipfire is absolutely dumb & low quality game design.
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And it’s a shit idea that shouldn’t be encouraged.
So again, we move the problem down the BR instead of solving it.
Later we will have to buff BA rifles so they aren’t useless in comparison to SA. And the only buff I can think of is guided ammunition.
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Thats just how it is, I doubt we can increase the recoil department much for high tier guns as above said.
Only viable solution probably would be dispersion and that is worst way.
Just lock the BR1-2 
If people still choose to use BA in +BR3 its theyr choice, much like ppl bringing T-70 to BR5.
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Why not lock BR5 then?
It would solve SA vs SF issue and yould make BR4 more viable option.
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I dont mind, my guess is its not already locked due to lack of players.
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Well either a semi buff - or lowering their BRs. Most semis belong to BR3 max, there is already very little reason to use them in BR4 with some high capacity gold orders being the exception - but even at BR3, some SMGs are already better at medium range then rifles.
What could be done, is to make semis much less effected by damage drop and dispersion, so that they dont turn to one hit kills in close range BUT have equal effective range of bolt actions.
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Or just remove BR4 and BR5, and then have only 3 total BRs that are all locked.
BR1 early war, bolt actions
BR2 mid war, semi autos
BR3 late war, assault rifles
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They need better recoil, less dispersion and lose less damage at the ranges over 15m so you could always kill people in 2 hits no matter what.
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