Ways to solve Berlin balance issue. Map & Weapons

I have spent over a dozen hours in Berlin German faction now.






And so on.
Everytime, only few elite players and I contribute >50% effort to the team. While soviet side can always perform evenly. With lots of players contribute to the team.
Also, it seems that, the weaker a side is, the more chance that side get console players.

The Berlin German players are hopeless.
Most times team just do nothing.
Just forget the traditional way of balancing, it dosent work.
Because now most players have grinded Soviet faction to top levels, also bought lots of Soviet premiums, so they REFUSE to switch side. And still keep staying at Soviet faction. Regardless of how Soviet side has been nerfed.

We need some more EXTREME ways to deal with the balance problems.

Not joking, for most matches (only few matches that there’s more than one elite players in this faction)
Berlin German faction need the ability to defeat whole Soviet team with only 1~2 players Just forget about the rest of the team, and keep focus on enhancing top tier players.

How to fix Germans not play for the goal?
Like:


360° surrounding point but no one enters it. (Including over the top)

We all know the respawn ticket, and capture time can set differently for each faction.
EASY!
I have been testing different map for so long. (A wiki that include capture time and respawn resupply is coming soon)
Now average Soviet invasion zone cap time is ~50s. But German still has ~30s.
Still not enough.
Set soviet attacking side capture time up to 60~90s. While set German side capture time down to 10~20s.
So only one German player can easily capture the point for whole team. While Soviet have to use the whole team to capture.

Also What about Soviet’s attack are so fierce? But German’s attack is so weak?
EASY!
Remember we can set different respawn cost and resupply?
Now Soviet already cost more respawn ticket than Germans. Like 14vs12.
Also for resupply after captured each point, the ticket resupply for Soviet is ~140, while for German is ~250.
Still NOT ENOUGH.
How can only ONE player in German to defeat whole 10 players in Soviet?
Soviet respawn cost must be even higher. 15~20 per respawn is acceptable.
Also, 140 resupply is still too much, that makes Soviet attack endless. Only 80~100 is OK.
While give German MORE resupply! To relief those AI and newbee’s wasted tickets!
Normandy’s 333 per cap is OK for me.
Also reduce German respawn cost down to 10! So that those few elite players in German can have enough tickets to attack!

Dont forget for Destruction, Assault mode, you too can set different timer, tickets for different side!

For weapons:
FG42/MG42/Tiger/Stuka is still not enough for current situation.
We need much stronger top levels weapons and vehicles.

Also keep nerfing Soviet weapons.
PPSH is still to close to German side weapons. Just nerf it. Also dont forget PPSH drum tend to get stuck when firing. Add this feature.
Also DP and DT’s recoil and spread is still to accurate. DP and DT IRL is very hard to ADS without mounted.
And consider to use 10 round magazine for AVT40. 15/15 is too much.

After these decisive changes, players will eventually leave Soviet side! Making this campaign more balanced.

Also to dev:
Players will have to re-grind German again.
Buying Premiums for German.
Spending gold on German tech tree!
Dev can also earn a lot from it!

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Add more attack map even i wen i completed berlin Axis i got bored of defend every time and simply start kill

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Did you actually get this assmad over 1 less magazine and a slightly longer reload on a 71 round gun lol

Also: Asking your friends to like your post is kinda pathetic

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All new invasion maps are both side attack able.

Map rotation like german on defense

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AVT lost 2 mags with a large ammo pouch, total ammo is now 60, while the FG-42 total ammo is 80, that is quite significant.

Those slight nerf isnt going to change the situation.

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Only few weapons nerf wont effect whole balance much.
Its the playerbase.

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no. lets not nerf the shit out of one factions weapons it never ends well just look at heroes and generals. The soviet weapons don’t need nerfing.

No.

German stuff on early progression in berlin is good at least I’ve never had any issues with it i wouldnt say its weak. The mp3008, Vg-2, MP40, MP35, MG34,panther and panzer 4 are all pretty damn good

Not all of them I’ve had many rounds where the soviets are hopeless i think it just depends on what players are playing what side its not a game balance issue.

Also i haven’t used any of the late tier German stuff but they do get the MG42, FG42 (two of them), MG 34 with 75 round mag and beretta M38 40 rounds. The Russians may get a 71 drum mag submachine gun however the Germans get a 75 round magazine light machine gun this seems pretty fair to me. :slight_smile:

So all in all the Germans are good not weak its just the players.

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3ff

“Germany suffers! We need extreme measures to counter the PPSh!!
Maybe when they add these famous and totally real vehicles we can compete!!”

tigermech

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ok that would be a cool event mode vehicle that could mimic a star wars battle

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Are you kidding me?
PPS vs MP3008?
MP40 vs PPSH/PPD?
PZ4J?
Now players not playing German mainly because of shitty early levels.

Well, that’s your experience. But all the matches I posted are not like what you said. And I have much more pic in my harddrive.

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To weak We need serius shit
71rmLu6B-wL.AC_SX425

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The true question is:
Can this thing bunnyhop?

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this might be the most cry baby post I’ve seen in a long time, my lord. Plenty of players do just fine in Axis Berlin, I personally have like 65% win rate and that’s factoring in when it released and was actually unbalanced. Your anecdotal experience of not winning isn’t justification for balancing a campaign in the absolutely WORST ways imaginable. If the campaign is unbalanced, the devs will have the data for that and can balance appropriately

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Yes 20m for jump is sufficient for you

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“They added the wrong model! This is the real Pz. IV that was used in Berlin!”

pzIV

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No sir i can assure you I’m not

The MP3008 is pretty good is very controllable however im just not sure about the iron sights however i still use it.

The MP40 is just fantastic there is nothing really bad about it. Don’t forget the mp35 as its pretty damn good <3

I like it never really had any issues with it.

I really do not see anything wrong with any of these weapons also to note i also use the mp40’s on the Moscow campaign too going against Russian ppd/ppsh submachine guns. Any weapon is good if you can kill with it.

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Then where’s your statistic?
My profile is messed up with AFK matches, so not helping at all.
But I recorded all my match result. I still hardly reach 50%WR.
Also what if the team dosent have me? I always is the sole top players in the team. Way higher score than 2nd guy.

While there’s lots ppl think MP series is worse than Soviet counterpart.

Also a new topic:

Lots more people have issue with it.

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