you know darkflow has the choice to NOT use lootboxes and offer methods that don’t involve luck? Gambling is never a healthy design choice, just look at why some countries outlaw it even, I’m not sure why you want to die on that hill
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What hill?
I’m just making it clear that participating in loot boxes is optional. Nobody is forced to buy them.
Except people are forced to buy them if they want to get event squads that everybody else is using. It’s not like the lootboxes just offer funny CSGO skins, they give you equipment that makes an impact on the gameplay
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No they’re not.
The Veteran Boxes are for Veterans. People who have too much silver and nothing to spend it on.
Sure, anyone can buy them, but they are in no way forced to buy them. At all. Those who chose to buy already know the risks (read: the odds), because they’re written in plain English for them. You buy them at your own risk.
Suggesting you buy a bunch of boxes should guarantee a squad/vehicle/whatever you want, is the same as going to a casino and asking for a guaranteed blackjack or full house because you laid down a bet. It isn’t going to happen. I don’t know why you’d think this was any different.
That doesn’t even make sense, actual veterans already have tons of event content accumulated from playing. The people who ironically needs lootbox event rewards the most are new players unable to afford them.
Let new players just buy event squads for 50k or 100k silver, I don’t care. I want to spread the content for everybody to enjoy
And comparing Darkflow to an actual casino is just dumb, Darkflow makes profits from people buying gold, not lootboxes. A casino needs people to gamble to stay open but this game doesn’t
I’m not comparing DF to a casino. I’m comparing the gambling nature of loot boxes to a casino game.
Please don’t twist my words.
And sure, let’s give all new players access to limited/pre-existing event squads right off the bat. That’s really helpful with a F2P game, where the market focus is player play-time and grinding through research trees, like every other F2P game…
Welcome to the world of gambling, kid. The house always wins.
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If they get sold for 100k silver, more or less, whatever is deemed appropriate, new players still wouldn’t be able to accumulate enough silver to buy tons of squads at the same time. A lot of people don’t have premium accounts, and are busy spending their silver in the tech tree or on soldiers or on weapons.
I’m just suggesting that event rewards should not be tied to luck. Guess what? Some people HAVE been getting event squads right off the bat because they get ridiculous luck and earn an event squad in under 10 boxes.
There are so many other ways to provide event squads without just relying on luck, which I believe to be inherently wrong
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The people who don’t have premium accounts or excess silver shouldn’t be wasting them on boxes.
And speaking as someone who does have both, my luck has been shite with them. A couple of vehicles I’ll never use and the odd premium soldier, plus an untold amount of XP bonuses and appearance orders.
Am I bitter about it though? No, of course not. Because I knew the odds when I played.
The other ways to provide event squads don’t require luck, just time. If you’re not around to put the time in when the event takes place, then I’m sorry, but you don’t get the squads. That doesn’t mean the devs should give you guaranteed access to them because you spent X amount of silver on a gambling mechanic.
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Yes, it is an illusion: Even if you hit on the 1%, there’s a second gamble (roll of the dice) to decide which squads you get. You don’t get to choose—which is total BS. Stop being such a fan boy.
The only reason you think that the current loot box is the “very essence of a loot box” is because a single company came up with the concept and other companies copied them. So they simply defined them as they currently are—it doesn’t mean that they can’t change, they simply choose not to. It’s no different than changing a contract. Sure, the other party may claim that the terms of the contract can’t change, but its total BS. Any written contract can be changed legally as long as both parties agree to the change.
How many people who play this game truly understand the odds of winning? Question: Who are the people—in the real world—who play the lottery? The uneducated, who barely passed third grade math—let alone understanding statistics. That’s why it’s called a “poor man’s tax.” And these people are preyed upon.
These are the facts, and the facts can change if DF decides to change them. None of this stuff is written in stone. The “essence” is allowed to change!
For one, and I know you’ve tried this card before, so let me be clear. I’m no “fanboy”, and, no I don’t actually care about loot boxes or in-game gambling either, so do yourself a favour, and wind your neck in.
But no, there is no illusion to the nature of loot boxes or their gambling nature. And I don’t know where you think that there might be. Each roll of the dice equates to a certain percentage. Roll one, 1%. Roll 10, still 1% per roll. The odds are written for you in plain day. It’s up to you to interpret them in whatever way you want…
I like to think most people, because that’s the actual aim of the game. To win. Are you missing something? Let me help with that… Play the game. Win. Lose. It’s the game. The Veteran’s boxes aren’t actually a part of the game. They are a side-hustle. And not guaranteed to win. It’s a gamble. And made for people who have too much silver to spend.
No, they’re are just subjective emotions that you feel right now. The above that I’ve written are facts.Take from them what you want.
I really don’t know how much clearer I can make the point.
Honestly I kinda just wish the loot boxes could be divided by nation so if you main a particular one you can try and just farm that nation in particular. But alas, we must gamble, 99% of gamblers quit before they win a gorillian dollars!
5.5 MILLION?!??!?! GOD DAMN!
That really breaks my spirit bro.
Damn… I pray you get one in the next few boxes bro.
i disarmed every faction i have and am rebuilding my presets of br 1, 2, 3 and 5. Perfect rolling every soldier and max upgrading all guns.
Currently im broke so i have to play games to get enough silver to get the loadouts i want.
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I feel you. I was actively in the process of max rolling and upgrading guns for my Japan BR presets 1,2,3,4 & 5 and since they’ve added the boxes I’ve actively been saving for them more so and just giving my squads the essentials and using upgrade orders.
I only got into Enlisted since late last year so I’m missing the majority of Japan Event squads.
Other idea: let me resell what I don’t want.
For exemple, I’ve more callsign than I ve soldier…and I don’t use it.
Same for some decal (like the fox head for the Usa).
I don’t mind the squad and vehicle acquisition mechanism
But the mechanics of the weapons should be better
Because the number of weapons you give now is less than the amount of medical insurance compensation in the United States.
At least players are guaranteed to get a weapon they want when they spend 250,000 to 500,000
Instead of spending millions and not even getting the weapon you want.
Except for one thing, Gaijin gains nothing by doing this. Silver is a free currency that can be earned by playing the game or cannibalizing your reserves.
How does forcing a double dice roll beneficial for anyone? I do have some theories but I’m not gonna level such accusations unless there is solid proof.
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This is how you pay gaijin. You need to play the game to gain silver…
And did you know that premium account and squads get increased silver?
In the worst scenario you only inflate the active player numbers.
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So people might even have no self control might make the the quetionable decision to buy silver in the shop.
Which directly translates into money for gaijin.
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