At present, the USSR lacks bombers that can rival German bombers. In sharp contrast to Soviet attack aircraft, the German Ju188 had even more 250kg bombs than all the USSR 250kg bombs combined. In addition, the other three camps all have 500kg (or 1000 pounds) bombs, which the USSR lacks in this regard. Suggest adding tu2s (br5) and mounting 500kg × 3 to compete with German bombers.
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Il-10 is already really good plane. The 23mm cannons shred planes and apcs and double 250 can handle any tank
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I would like the TU-2 to be added
but 500x3 is too much IMO. Beccause the Tu-2 also has pilot controlled 20mm cannons to defend itself and a decent flight model (plus gunners).
4x250 maybe (even this would be one of, if not the best attackers)
It is way better than the JU188 (Ju188 is only good if the air is not contested)
I certainly wouldnt make it a priority. Soviets already have a strong Airforce vs the Germans
You must not be serious. If you think IL10 is sufficient, it is recommended to play a few games before commenting
That’s not fair at all. Why does Germany have 500kg in Br 2 and 6 × 250kg in Br 4, while the Soviet Union only has 2 × 250 in Level 5? At least 2 x 500 are required to compete with German bombers and tanks. Do you really think the Soviet Air Force is powerful? I admit that fighter jets have advantages, but bombers are far inferior to Germany.
well in all fairness Soviets have 6x100KG (600KG) in Br 2 on 2 planes, and another 6x100 on a BR 3 plane
Ju 188 is an outlier (But IMO its not good because if there are any planes in the air, its an easy kill. It relies on being left alone)
The other High tier German attackers are
Me 410 (IL 10 is better)
F190D (broken flight model) - Id say IL 10 is still better until the 190 gets fixed
Soviet Fighters tend to be more heavily armed and better for low altitude accross the board.
I do. When I rank a plane its not by payload size as much as it is being armed enough to do mulitple jobs and defend itself. I actually really dislike the Ju188 because it cant defend itself. Lots of the Soviet attackers can act as fighters too
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I have played over 1800 games as USSR(from BR3 to BR5), which lacked bombers with 500kg or even higher yield bombs to offset the advantage of German tanks. If anyone thinks that Soviet bombers are powerful enough, it is recommended to play at least ten games of USSR BR5 first
But the USSR did lack outliers like ju188 and a universal value carrying 500kg
Sure. I think they were giving them a different flavour. Favouring large calibre cannons with really good AP rounds and a mix of rockets and bombs/carpet bombing. (plus good flight models)
The NS37 is not sufficient to deal with German tanks, and this conclusion can be easily drawn in both training grounds and actual combat. And Germany’s MG151 can destroy any Soviet tank such as IS2 and KV (not to mention MK108 and BK37). These are the conclusions I reached after playing 1800 games.The flight speed of IL2 is also extremely slow, often dropping below 300 after the first dive
Moreover, it is an undeniable fact that the USSR lacked 500kg bombs
Don’t forget that Germany has the BF110G2, which has stronger firepower and maneuverability
The video above ^^^
It pens everything. All german tanks have low armor on top. The highest is 40mm (tiger 2 H), most are 20mm…37 NAS has 71mm pen. 2x 100kg bombs as backups
It has better anti infantry firepower, but certainly cannot out turn an IL-2
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In theory, it is indeed the case, but in actual combat, the BF110G2 is far superior to the IL2. My conclusions all come from my not short game matches,. USSR did lacked 500kg bombs in BR2 and 6x250kg bombs in BR4.
How many games have you played playing as USSR？
Since merge about 300 per faction (except japan)
Then 10 plus years of warthunder
After the merger, I played over 100 games against Germany and over 1800 games against the Soviet Union. I haven’t played WT. In my opinion, the Soviet Union’s semi-automatic rifles and submachine guns were slightly inferior to Germany, while its light machine guns, tanks, and bombers were far inferior to Germany. The few other weapons have only minor advantages.
I have 250 battles with russians before the merge and 278 battles on UDSSR after the merge with 85% winrate and a K/D of 3,41 in total on that nation. I use my SU-2 (M-82), a BR II bomber and it’s still strong enough to bomb the shit out of the every tank on BR V without any bigger problems and also to outturn many enemy planes with this good turnrate. IL-10 and I-185 are also very good killing tanks / infantry with their 2x250kg bombs. I would choose the IL-10 over a JU-188 any day.
The SU-2 (M-82) drops 3 x 2 bombs each weighing 100kg, which means it can make 3 approaches before it has to reload and is also far more mobile than, for example, the JU 87 R2.
The SU also has 2 more machine guns for fighting enemy planes, which also makes it more pleasant.
Here, too, I would rather choose the SU then the JU.
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Now I have switched to playing in the United States. The USSR’s overall strength in BR3 is slightly inferior to Germany, while in BR5 it is far inferior. Suggest deleting the Soviet Union and strengthening Germany and Japan to crush the just allies.
You will achieve better results by driving Ju188 and Tiger King H.