Don’t worry.
Be like me, see the big picture ahead. What special German tank made a notoriously famous appearance in that particular theater?
Big big cat.
The Brits will most likely get a Churchill. While I love the thing for it’s good armour, it won’t compare to a Tiger. 
Asymmetrical balance, gentlemen.
(Yes I’m hyped for both of those)
I don’t need tanks of the same campaign lvl to always be perfectly mirrored equivalent for both faction. It’s boring for me this way, as I play both sides. Right now axis get a semonvente and Brits a Grant. Yes Grant is a bit more useful, but later it will be Churchill vs cat.
Moscow: t28 vs pz4, pz4 wins. But after that, t50 vs pz3. T50 wins.
Normandy: same thing, jumbo vs pz4, you know what wins. But then, panther vs usa td…
And so on.
Same with weapons.
Moscow, soviets can get ppsh41, nothing can compete. But axis get pre stg for snipers…
There’s always some sort of balance when you look at factions AS A WHOLE, gentlemen, and that’s the key: faction AS A WHOLE. It’s worthless to compare lvl 5 vs lvl5 etc.
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Tbh, unless Grant flanked me, i won against it in Semovente.
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Exactly! Ppl just try to compare things like “oh THAT tank got one more mg, it’s better, my tank is shit”
While in fact the semonvente is TAILORED to kill Grant specifically (in this game, this campaign). It’s a tank destroyer after all.
Both vehicles have different functions, it’s silly to compare their efficiency about a single criteria. I know I enjoy both vehicles 🤷
Yeah, Grant is much, like a much better as anti-infantry vehicle, well, it is a tank after all, and build with mind that it should support infantry. But Semovente is much better at killing tanks, because unless there is buggy armor, you OHK Daimlers and even Cruisers. For Grant you have to use more ammo, as it has 6 people, one of them is notice board guy.
One of Grant crewmembers is checking is his board is okay, colorised:
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Lol Just add German tanks if the Italians sucks.
But they dont, people just dont know how to play them. And German tanks will come in future.
They don’t… they’re in fact better than the 2 first British tanks. Why? Broken damage models: the Italian CAR bounce off 40mmpdr shells 
it’s why recently I see much more Italian starter tanks on the field than Brit ones. The 20mm used by the Italian car also causes shell shock to the British crewmen, if it doesn’t pen and kill outright those in the turret.
As for the French errrr second Italian tank, it’s very slow with poor mg capabilities true… but it’s armour can “tank” very, very well 40mm shots. (At least this one makes sense)
Like I said elsewhere. The AB is actually better than the A13 when it comes to survivability, especially thanks to the poor post-pen dmg of the British shells. I didn’t test the AB against the Lee though since whenever I play Axis I have to defend the points for my team so they can snipe.
I guess people just look too much at theoretical stuff or try to kill A13s on long distances.
Yeah. So instead of demanding useless MGs on the roof or sandbags, ppl should consider that and name examples. Seems to be less time-wasting than that.
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Yeah, im really happy with all tanks tbh.
It has nothing to do with French, and is not even similar to something French have, it is basically an uparmored T-26, as it was something that inspired Italians. If it would be of French origin, there would be only 1 man in turret, as French had some fetish for that.
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I only meant that due to the resemblance:)
The Italian model took inspiration from it.
It’s the ww1 French one, but many nations used it as base model for their own tank lines.
I know, Italians had its own version of FT-17, its called L5/21 or more common Fiat 3000.
But M13/40 and its variants has not taken inspiration from FT, they taken it from T-26 that Italians faced in SCW and they captured some of them and then transported to Italy.
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OH. The Semovente is great against the grant. Just stinks compared to the grant in all other ways. I do NOT want the Semovente replaced. I love that we can get a M13/40, M14/41, AB40, and Semovente 75/18 in this game. Nice collection of Italian tanks BALANCED well against their opponents by making smart choices with the British Armor. This is all good. I’m just saying that against infantry the Semovente is much much worse.
Collectively the Italian Armor in this game is good solid stuff from a gameplay point of view. Thus I am recommending small improvements to the Italian Tanks. Hull MG’s for the M13/40 and M14/41 as their MG’s are crap. Add an HE round for the Semovente. I would like to see a Roof MG, but that is not going to be a significant improvement, but it existed and would help a bit. So it’s some work for the devs, it’s about POLISH, making the game slick. I understand the roof MG will be highly situational.
I don’t want German tanks if it can be avoided.
I also would like it if the Tier I tanks like the A13 and M14/41 had SOME chance against their Tier II opponents. Even if you have to aim carefully for a small weakspot. This game is punishing enough to new players. No need to make it worse. Not to mention I would like to make an all Italian lineup.
And for whoever was talking Churchill and Tiger. No. Please no. It’s totally not necessary. This is an INFANTRY focused game. The Grant is already great. A sherman and Pz IV should be as high as this stuff gets.
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Sadly we dont have 75/18 version. That one would be neat with HEAT shells.
There will be Germans tanks in future, it is unavoidable.
I penetrated Grant with M13/40 many times, it has weakspot around 75mm gun and down on turret.
And did you played Semovente that you want HE shells for it? Because they are absolutelly unnecessary when APHE works same, i said it to you many times.
Giving it He shells would actually be a nerf.
Oh the APHE shells do go boom. But a full on 75mm HE shell would be devesating. I would prefer to have both personally. Yes. I am playing the Semovente now
I would prefer to have only one ammo, instead of half and half with this small of ammo count. That HE shell will change nothing, you just have to waste shells to reload!
Please, tell me one good argument where it is better to have 2 types of shells with gun that has 43 rounds, and where APHE ammo is same as HE ammo, well not same, it can destroy tanks too, HE cant do that.
An HE round will have significantly more explosive mass and behave more like a bomb. It also will have a better frag pattern. It should have a more effective radius of fragments AND have more overpressure damage. IF Enlisted implements it the same as APHE round, then of course I wouldn’t want it. But if it (as it should) is like the difference between a regular AP grenade (APCPC) and a dynamite pack (HE round) then I want the ability to really blow stuff up.
But thats a problem, i dont think they will implement them stronger. Then it can be another situation where people wanted something, DW given it to them and they found out, it is not that great. I will rather have only APHE than HE that is same. And you cant replace ammo in Invasion soo i will rather stick to APHE only, as it works against infantry as good against tanks.
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I would say that this is not the spirit of what I am asking for. Ultimately, DW is going to develop the game as they see fit. I am just stating the obvious fact that the Grant is better than the Semovente in regards to overall performance in this game. There are a myriad of ways of solving that. I have provided what I see as options that CAN work. However, I am under no illusion that it is the ONLY way to do it. Nor am I under any illusion that things will be done in a manner that I personally enjoy.
However, a powerful HE round existed for this gun and could work. In real life it would be more effective than the APCBC and there is no reason it cannot also be so in game.
A roof mounted MG existed for this vehicle and would be situationally valuable.
I have just mentioned on the main thread that this vehicle came with smoke grenades and I would like them.
The reload time for the main gun could be improved by real amount.
These are all options that allow the semovente to be more competitive. I will also add that DW has stated many times that they plan on implementing the ability to decide how many of what type of rounds you can carry on your tanks. In that case, the addition of an HE round is the best all around improvement to the vehicle.
More options are always better.
Finally, I really don’t want to use german tanks. For that to work the Semovente needs to be as powerful as historically, realistically, and game wise as possible.
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We are talking about campaigns that are not yet finished. Maybe once they are finished it will make more sense.
But have you heard about normandy campaign ?
This is good balance ? Unfinished german ju-188 that cant defend itself against nearly fully completed A-20 which has anything except tailgunner ? Im more concerned about present than future. And these are issues in normandy that persists for months.
More problems are elsewhere. i dont want semovente to be fully equal to grant. But some improvements could be good. Asymmetrical balance is good.
