I was playing allies on conquest mode (map with the church) and my team was close to victory. But somehow the whole game was lost because one of the players on the enemy team started camping in the house close to the church. He used the SMG squad and the premium SMG squad. This guy was absolutely molesting my team. When I spawn, i would immediately get sprayed by bullets. My bolt action rifles were too slow firing and my SMG’s… well they are PPD’s with retardedly huge recoil. Mp-40/41 must get a nerf. In Enlisted, PPD was never better than Mp and somehow got nerfed. This is way to crazy, it feels like they even buffed the Mp. If you are going to write:" but PPD is OP because it is good in close quarters", you probably never touched that SMG. It loses everything at ranges further than 10m, it loses both damage and accuracy. Just by searching for 5 minutes, everyone can see that PPD and PPSh were very stable for quick firing SMG’s
I really want the devs to remove Vitality and Recoil Reduction perk. That would be a good place to start and keep the playing field ever so slightly evened.
Yeah, those prem guys can survive a nuclear bomb!
I don’t even find them fun to play as. Sure they have maxxed out perks and weapons, but there’s literally nothing to do besides that. Making it so purchasable Squads have to rank up like anyone else would be good too.
I really think this is more of a spawncamping + vitality perk issue than a PPD issue.
Bolt actions would be able to oneshot them if they didnt have the vitality perk
It would be much easier to counter those people if you spawned in an area of like 2-3 buildings large instead of 1 building.
Also you guys have the PPK which is basically a MP40/41 and the LMGs that work fine at range as well. Also shotguns, which have a surprising ammount of range now.
To be honest both of the guns that the premium squads use don’t benefit much from the horizontal recoil reduction because their horizontal recoil is already very minimal. The MP is a laser gun with slight muzzle climb. The PPK has a bit more recoil but is still very controllable with bursts.
Regardless you can still get those veteran perks for your own guys after grinding for a bit, right now you can’t and it’s can get frustrating, but once the game opens up and there’s no threat of a wipe you can just veteran all your guys over time.
And I agree with Tangled’s latest post, I’ve found it more fun to run around as basic bolt rifles squads than with the PPKs or MP41s because it feels more rewarding to dumpster people with a simple Mosin or Kar than just hosing them. I keep them in reserve for when I absolutely need to clean something close quarters out though.
You can still down premium soldiers with a single shot to the chest with a bolt rifle or upgraded carbine, which gives you enough time to quickly follow up and finish them with a second shot or down the rest of the squad reload and re-down the first guy you got, or just headshot them and end it there. That last one isn’t always a realistic option in CQC though.
I also use bolt action rifle 99% of the time. But when I play on the smallest map in the game, i need to use that close to medium range weapons (that are completely awful). This is probably the reason why Soviet teams loose more on this map than on others
I have to pay for PPK-41 and even than, it’s worse than mp-40 (look in the stats)
What map is it?
PPD with 25 rounds is a real drain gun.
the gun is fine the only issues are thing like the health perk also spare me the "muh MP op you are both mp and ppd are good guns the only one that is understandably underpowered is ppd with 25 rounds but you can’t get around it’s the same gun and it had that amount of round the only suggestion i have i the ppd with the drum magazine going at a lower level therefore being faster and easier to obtain and replace, also yes ppd is great at close quarters and don’t tell me how i’m wrong i was russia main and sealclubbed squad after squad with the drum version by using it’s strenghs also as for the incident you brought upif he didn’t loose due tothe health perk it’s perfectly fine and it’s on you and your team not for the guy for killing you, there’s also skill and luck to it today i took i seal clubbed entire squads with a level1 tankon foot and an mp28 without any upgrades also what’s the big deal games can turn and be lost do to well time attacks that result into a rampage also pls if he was “camping” in the house by the church what were you doing? camping inside the church i assume? Dude i’ve been vocal about the health perk but reading this it seem just you being oversentive abotu a giuy going john rambo at the end and costing you team the game
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it was better and now it does just 0.2 less damage dude it’s nothing and it’s a still a great gun perosnally from expirience using it (slavaged from corpses) in find PPK slightly better from mid range ppd (with drum) the god of close range and MP’s a solid compromise
PPD with drum mag should become lower level to unlockcause yeah ppd boxed is kinda shit but nothing can be done about the gun it self so i hope they make the drum version a level 5 upgrade like mp38
Play a squad full of PPD’s and see for yourself. Mp-40 just preforms better at all situations. Off course when you are at incredibly close range, picking up a PPD from a dead guy is not a bad move. You need to play both sides to give a full opinion. I play germans from time to time and i found that Mp brings a lot of kills
PPD gives plenty of kills as well.
And again, you guys get a lot more options
You have the PPD, PPK, LMG and Shotgun
We get MP40 reskin after MP40 reskin and 2 mediocre LMGs
big brain don’t lecture me you’re the one who doesn’t play both i said i was russia main and the one i mentioned about corpses is PPK not PPD and again PPD is better than MP in close quarters only the box verison is proablematic cause of the fireate big too good for it’s low ammo capacity
Trigger discipline can be practiced and semi-automatic mode is a thing for the PPDs, but not for the MPs except the MP41.
Sry I mixed your comment with another guy but still, you WERE russia main in alpha i assume (before the premium madness)
yeah it all comes down to drigger disciplence in my opinion i am not a big fun of single shot mode with pistoll caliber guns though so i stick toshort bursts