can just go in paperproject land, it its not an issue of Japan, it isnt one for France
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Ye, i think that Finland and China should Be their own factions and The rest should Be subtrees or a few squads
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France should
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you think Finland deserves to be its own faction but not France
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I would like to France as their own faction, hey could also include The netherlands and belgium so they would have More stuff. I just need to Make My french TT include their stuff too and Make More research.
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france has enough gear to be a full tech tree without needing copy paste except for at weapons, which dont matter at this point since even the ussr doesnt have its own at weapons
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I think some non usual factions would make of enlisted a special and original game: most ww2 games only have americans/germans/japonese and some of them USSR. Having a finland or France faction would make of enlisted a more special game because it shows more knowledge about ww2 different fronts. For me it would be of course a very positive add for the attractivity of this game.
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You mean overtiered tanks that suck ass against a Tiger I and dont even exist in War Thunder? Or infantry stuff being filled with stuff no one heard about combined with British and American stuff (even Belgian) and gold order and premium weapons?
Very impressive. Looking at the popularity of Japan which is slightly better than France since they managed to develop rocket launchers (that are awful), we will surely see masses of people fighting over valuable MM spots and masses of newbies joining just as did not when DF released Pacific and Japan.
That is contradicts itself within the same sentence, impressive.
So yet another reason why it doesnt make sense.
Also, the Soviets technically could be given some protos while I am still waiting for the sekrit crossaint launchers.
France has way more weapon and tank potential than Japan, Japanās tech tree is already filled with āinfantry stuff no one heard aboutā yet theyāre in the game, literally 0 rifle after br2 is historically accurate, yet their tech tree works perfectly fine
there is no contradiction since the exception is explained
keep hating
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Agreed.
@panzerschreck45 Excellent point, thank you.
Not sure why others donāt understand this.
We already have some French, Canadian, Australian, British Indian, Hungarian, and Finnish weapons in game so I donāt understand why we cant have squads for them or associated maps???
(note that Canada, Australia and British India would of course be under a UK-Commonwealth tree or current āUSA-UKā tree)
Itās the same with maps, EVERYONE does D Day, Stalingrad, Berlin etc. It was great they did Burma, but then we only got ONE Burma map after waiting years and ZERO new Burma-related content
(sorry I dont really count premium Chinese squads because it is crazy imo to make squads that only work for one map when we dont have the Sino-Japanese war).
There have been many great suggestions from the community for new maps, and all of them are ignored. Instead we get copy paste generic maps that are just the same ideas as existing ones.
I would further note that many map suggestions were not insignificant, for example Tobruk was a very important battle in the North African campaign and the first time the Germans were beat by an Allied army. (there were UK, Australian, New Zealand, Free Polish, Free Czech and British Indian troops at Tobruk, also possibly South African Id have to check)
Likewise the battles in New Guinea were the first time Allied armies (Australia specifically) beat the Japanese on land.
Then thereās suggestions like Budapest or the Winter War which are just very unique and add variety to the game. I know Finland has been requested quite a lot by people despite itās relatively niche reality.
I dont understand the haters.
I was actually going to make a post about this Where Are We Supposed to Go From Here?
The game needs new content otherwise it becomes stale and will die.
Now when myself and others have suggested the Korean War for example, the general consensus is no we should cover WWII properly first.
Okay great, I agree.
So why is it then that whenever anyone proposes literally any suggestion for new WWII content (aside from prototype fairytale BR V crap) it is shot down by everyone and ignored by the devs???
Remember, if we move to the Cold War (and ignore a significant chunk of WWII), we will need new factions anyway.
The Korean War I proposed how the different armies could fit within existing factions (see my post) but after that weād need new factions and frankly it would be very silly using WWII era factions for Cold War battles. (USA and USSR never actually fought each other directly, while Germany and Japan would basically just stop at WWII).
Enlisted YouTuber Napoleon Total rightly mentioned this how China for example really ought to be its own tech tree if we are going to the Cold War so saying no China faction for WWII is silly if you think we should move to Cold War (which a lot of players do want apparently)
Oh one more thing.
If we have France-Poland-BENELUX as a faction,
France could extent post war to the First Indochina War which was from 1946 to 1954.
The First Indochina War and Korean War both used predominately WWII era tech and are close enough to WWII in my opinion that they could be additions to the game (recall that the vast majority of required tech for Korean War is already in game)
So yeah France could go from BR I-BR V (Im assuming BR V will include jets as per upcoming update unless they add BR VI)
You mean shitty-ass two to three manned tanks with awful cannons, mostly awful armor and godawful speed?
Or is there another sekrit 200mm cannon tank with Maus armor the French drew on some paper?
Not really unless you consider one auto rifle and the Tokyo as a lot. And even then, more historical than the French Berthier rifle at BRV.
Japan made more Type 4 rifles than France made MAS-40. Most MAS44 were made after WW2, and I have yet to find any source about the fancy automatic Berthier rifle. So even the Type Hei Auto is more historical because you can at least find a subchapter for it on the Type Hei wiki article.
Not really. Already starts with lack of high BR launchers and their tanks still suck and I think they still miss a BRV SMG or AR.
Also, Japan TT is overtiered unless you consider stuff like a plane without offensive MG and two 250kg bombs worthy for BRIII when both Allies and Axis have planes with more explosive massive and an MG at BRI and II.
So going beyond whatever DF rates, Japan does miss a lot.
I know. The TT will be completely independentā¦ EXCEPT for maybe oneā¦ twoā¦ threeā¦ maybe fourā¦ okay probably a couple of weapons from other nationsā¦ but they are not crucialā¦ you just need them to destroy tanksā¦ not contrary at allā¦
Also, the Soviets do it as well! I donāt know how this shows that the TT is 100% independent but whatever.
Keep saying nothing.
Apart from Finland, they all have maps/ campaigns whatever where they fought. Also, you would need to create voices for each nationality, probably also make uniforms, and the way how the current system works forces to remove/ replace existing squads.
So devs should spend more time to create new assets together with making new nationalities-squads and if they listen to the right moron even entire new factions when they already release like one or two maps per year?
Also, only Bulge was copy-paste while iirc Rhizev was only using couple of wood barns outside the city while Burma has new assets unless they also used recycled huts there as well people didnāt notice.
What exactly?
Why caring about Cold War if even according to you WW2 isnāt even done yet?
Oh please, we need more input from YTers. We aināt have enough Paradivisions around here.
Do they? Iirc, whenever someone mentions Cold War or Korea, people canāt stop saying no to it.
French tanks may not be great but that doesnt mean they arent unique. Just look at War Thunder.
Also, itās generally agreed that in 1940 the French actually had better tanks then the Germans, the problem was the French generals had poor tactics and were outsmarted by the Germans.
I know Im not the only one who wants to see the Char B1 Bis in game, the S35 is also pretty good too. The AMD 35 would be a great BR I armoured car, similar to the Italian AS 41.
Recall too that while WT is purely tanks, Enlisted is an FPS. So I have found that tanks that suck in war thunder (eg M4A3, M13 halftrack) can be quite effective in Enlisted as infantry support.
French tanks would have strong armour and reasonable guns for infantry support. The BR system would further try and balance things out roughly. Also consider that due to the nature of maps in Enlisted, tanks can rarely go fast anyway so speed doesnt matter and Id direct you back to my earlier point about infantry support.
I fail to see why we should rule out an entire tech tree, including potential maps, just because of a couple of potentially copied AT weapons. The USSR and USA-UK trees both have AT weapons that arent indigenous, so not sure why that would be a problem for one more tree?
Weāve also already discussed about BR V. Just make France-Poland-BENELUX tree go to BR IV or BR III instead. Itās not that hard a concept LOL.
DF made uniforms for China (despite not really having anywhere to put them) and even zombies and aliens.
I think they can manage some basic uniforms for the countries listed. Especially Commonwealth which are just standard British uniforms with minor modifications like CANADA written on the shoulder or ability to equip a slouch hat, lemon squeezer hat or turban. (they already have the assets for Australian and New Zealand uniforms yet strangely refuse to allow them to be a customisation option).
I wouldnt worry about voices too much, we already have French voicelines and I assume the Australian and New Zealand premium squads just used English ones (which imo as an Australian is probably better than some terrible attempt at an Australian accent).
We have some maps where they fought but not really. Seriously mate what is your issue with adding new maps???
Itās true they only release 1-2 new maps per year. But pre merge about every 6 months or so we had entire campaigns with new factions, a bunch of completely new maps, new tech trees even.
So Iām not sure what the hold up with the devs is.
Either way Id much rather wait a year for two completely new maps rather than maps that are barely distinguishable from existing ones such as the New Georgia one.
Burma as I said is good, but we need more. They introduced a whole new theatre of the war and desperately needed variety for Japan and yet limited it to only one map??
Yes, they say no to Cold War though others ask for it.
The point Im making is if players refuse to go to Cold War and agree that we should have more WWII stuff, then why the hell are there people like you saying no to any suggestion for more WWII stuff???
What are your suggestions for new content or do you think the game should just go stale and die?
You dont need to make your letters bold. It looks stupid.
Was that even a point?
Yeah and they are horrible, and Tier II and III mostly work because of land-leased vehicles and post-war tanks.
Still no explanation how the chosen tanks here will fight a Tiger II or even a I and I guess we will never know because now we just gave up trying to make a complete TT and just at best go to BRIV, probably III.
Puma and J1 just pen it through front and probably kill most of the crew.
Nobody wants armored cars because people just spam tanks in greyzone and everything else just results in deathpacks killing you. And unlike the Puma, it does not even have a good gun. Since you even brought up the greyzones, it makes even less to propose armored cars.
Yes and Enlisted has infantry armed with insta-kill AT grenades and TNT and launchers that are overkill to French tanks that could probably be destroyed by a simple HMG.
And they suck ass at this since 47mm cannons (which iirc is the most common low-tier French cannon) barely do HE damage given how other tanks with similar calibre do. And a lot of howitzer tanks usually do not suffer so much when it comes to tank engagements, unlike the French.
And SMGs and MGs. I think one gun was literally called āBelgian Chauchatā in a pure French TT. My humour.
This argument is no argument to prove that the French TT is independent when in reality it just another way to say it isnāt. Also, you could technically replace the Soviet and Allied ones with protos while I am still waiting for the evidence that there are āindigenousā French launchers.
No, we have not. I did not talk to you nor do I follow you on Twitter to know what you spam all day.
Dumb. This just proves that these nations do not work alone in Enlisted since all nations (somehow) get to BRV while even TT fueled by the power of five nations barely reaches BR IV.
Because of Chinese money, while French do not bring money. There were not many uniforms anyways, especially in comparison to other factions where you have different season uniforms. I would also not be shocked if they stole uniforms and other assets from CRSED or elsewhere anyway.
Most if not all of them are stolen from other Gajin assets (especially CRSED) and some zombies just have a bucket or propeller glued on their bodies anywaysā¦
And like how many voicelines and different actors/ voices?
Because people first want more maps, and why start by making Finland maps if you donāt have Finland to begin with or more Pacific-like maps, nobody likes?
You mean the new faction where 80% of the gear was just the MP40 and the M1 Carbine?
The old campaign -release-maps also went in line with being one to two new maps per year since the devs make one big map and matches take place in portions of them,
Nice. Pretty sure that other people also see it that way.
Like they died with previous ones? What a shocker.
Other people also ask for Maus, but that does not mean most people want it.
Strawman. People donāt want useless incomplete TTs, that split the match maker if it could all be added to existing TTs with ease.
This is not an argument.
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