Things to downtier/balance post-update - Vehicles

Vehicles:

  • Marder III H → to BR2
  • Stug III F → to BR2
  • Tiger E → to BR4
  • Panther G → to BR5
  • Jagdpanzer IV → to BR3
  • Panzer IV/70(A) → to BR3
  • Panzer IV/70(V) → to BR4
  • Panzerwerfer 42 - to BR3
  • New additional rounds (M61 with explosive filler) for the M1/M3 Lee/M24 - keep AP but decrease them by 1/3 and give 1/3 as M61

M24 - 21 AP rounds/20 HE/7 smoke → 14 AP/20 HE/9 APCBC/5 smoke

M1/M3 - 22 AP/21 HE/7 smoke → 14 AP/21 HE/9 APCBC/5 smoke

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  • Yak9k → to BR4
  • Semoverte gets new EPS Heat round that replaces primary round with 100mm of pen → BR2
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  • Firefly → to BR4
  • KV-2 (1939) → to BR3
  • SU-100 → to BR4
  • SU-85M → to BR3
  • Chi-to → to BR3
  • Ho-ri Prototype → to BR4
  • All unarmored Trucks → BR1
  • Event Sd Kfz 251/9 → replaced primary round with Heat
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It has nothing to do on BR5. Its not existing reverse speed is huge disadvantage in comparison to other tanks. BR4 is exactly where it suppose to be.

Tiger is literally better in every - as long as players can angle. (The only disadvantage is lower penetration. But that’s far less important than non existing reverse speed. Which makes you easy target for both infantry and bombs)

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Sorry, but you should post these one by one.
Helpers say that they can’t forward these BR changes this way because its hard to track what players actually fully agree with.

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It has great round, good enough armor with above average mobility. It would be the best to move both Panthers to BR5 and introduce Panther F + VK 3002 (M) at BR4 as they have much weaker armor and poor turret traverse.

Hard to flood entire forum with my requests without getting banned. Maybe i should cut it by country for each category.

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You should post it one by one.

That is exactly what they want you to do :rofl:

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xDDDD good joke. It has terrible mobility except for top speed. But okay.

Tiger is waaaay more agile

only in reverse

Im gonna stay out of this, except for adding one thing:
If we move Panther G to BR5, what will happen to A which is only slightly weaker?

We could put it as the last BR4 unlock right after VK3002 (M) and Panther F or also put it at BR5 and foldered up. They could also add Panther D there as it has very slow turret traverse.

Nope. The difference between those tanks when someone throws an EP/bomb next to you is just huge.

But I sincerely doubt you’ve played that tank all that much. Since BR4 was definitely never meta. And people can just play BR5 with king tiger.

And from what you’re saying, it doesn’t really sound like you’ve played Panther xD

I disagree with all your suggestion except the truck who make sense because all of them are too powerful to get downtier or have the precedent/lighter version one br lower

So unrealistic. They would never reduce the number of smoke otherwise low ammo count tanks could be less ammo starved.

I dont like the idea of M61 rounds in BR 2 while tanks like the Ho-ni 3 and the chi nu sit in BR 3.
Both of them are kinda bad but stuck in BR 3 because of its ammo while beeing closed tank.
So eighter move them all to BR 2 or non of them.

They could move Chi-nu to BR2 as it has very thin armor and pretty slow reload.
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or Ho-Ni III or Na-to to BR2 as it they have even thinner armor and no turret

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That one could even be BR1 and would still be unplayable with only 7 HE rounds while somehow carrieing 17 APCR and another 16 APHE rounds.
Like WTF are you fighting an entire tank division or why do you need so many rounds but still can only have space for 7 HE?

in reality, the shells carried by AFVs were usually only 1/4 AP while the rest were HE or smoke for infantry support.
giving a tank the worst shell combination possible is a form of nerf.

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Why did you had to ruin it?

It’s a mandatory pick for BR4 if you want to pen armor of even heaviest tanks and also fight vs infantry.

Dont worry he forgot to also move the panther A