It’s just that the Soviet tech tree lacks the ‘early struggle, late reward’ progression other nations have, which leads to generally lower player quality at top tier. The best solution is to nerf Soviet low-tier vehicles – force those brain-dead USSR mains to actually learn the game’s basic mechanics from scratch
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The problem is body armour, not the weapons. The guns Axis already have in BR2 are better than the Soviet ones, but because of Armour, they are not.
Rest of this post is just axis-main crying.
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Ah!
I’d never think someone would notice and admit this.
It’s true that “hard times make strong men and easy times make weak men”
It’s also why I think axis teams perform better usually. Feel more… organized.
Some nerfs feel unnecessary however, why nerf AVT?
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I’m just used to the AVT having only 10 rounds in some older games. The 15-round mag in Enlistedfeels weird to me
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how about values on 15 or 20m. or without vitality. whole game is not within 15m against players with vitality.
PPS-43 + Uragan being sent to BR 3? Yes.
PPSh-41 Box Mag being sent to BR 4? No, just fix its laser accurate dispersion.
SVT-38 sent to BR 4? No, just give it a stripper clip reload.
PPD-34/38 + PPD-40 sent to BR 5? No, BR 5 is dominated by Select Fire rifles + AR’s, not drum mag SMGs. (With rare exception)
I don’t really have a comment on the rest.
Sure, at 20m
PPS-43 = 0.194s
vs armour = 0.194s
vs no vitality = 0.119s
Beretta M38/42 = 0.145s
vs armour = 0.240s
vs no vitality = 0.145s
At 40m
PPS-43 = 0.239s
vs armour = 0.239s
vs no vitality = 0.164s
Beretta M38/42 = 0.195s
vs armour = 0.290s
vs no vitality = 0.195s
Against vitality:
PPS-43 = 3 hits till 70m
Beretta M38/42 = 3 hits till 83m
MP40 = 3 hits till 85m
Against no vitality
PPS-43 = 2 hits till 56m
Beretta M38/42 = 2 hits till 67m
MP40 = 2 hits till 70m
Why would we account for “no vitality”? If you are not taking the correct perk, you deserve to lose lol.
Also, with no vitality, the MP40 with 7 damage has an advantage in that it will more likely outright kill a soldier than the 6.7 of the PPS-43
you are only calculating time to down.
Are you only downing enemies and than let them get up?
How does a soldier on the floor fight back. I’m not discussing the effectiveness of downed soldiers.
I know how to PEN a TIGER II (H). 
Nevertheless I want to have T-44-100
A reminder to post in English in this forum. Thanks.
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learn how to read
Do you really think DF would waste production resources to remake the reload animation for a gun from ancient times? No, they’d just steal the newly made reload animation from AM
Maybe you should buy a mouse with side buttons or practice your automatic rifle burst fire, Mr. 0.46-is-greater-than-0.22
6 scenarios and mp 40 only has advantage in one on within 17m
for other guns it is 12 or 14m(i dont remember exact distance for 6.8 damage guns)
cause most of the players on BR2 are players without vitality. players with vitality are mostly seal clubbers.
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I’ve never used these graphs that people keep showing, and they are quite useless as they do not account for bullet velocity at all
Also, there is no point in considering an unupgraded weapon
If you don’t have vitality, you don’t care enough about the balance of the game. You are either new or choosing to be ignorant. In both cases, player skill and knowledge can be learned and improved. This is a natural course of any game played, even by the most novice and casual players.
you started with TTK, so you consider them useful.
of course there is. most people in BR2 will use stock weapons cause they are newbies. enlisted has loads of new players, but has problem with player retention. only veteran players have luxury of upgraded weapons.
most players on BR2 are new players. most of them will not have vitality cause they need to fully research squad, then have soldier with right stats, gather enough xp for that soldier to level up and have no other perks invested in vitality tree if they have soldier with right stats.
so most of the players on BR2 will be players with stock weapons and with no vitality. balance should also take them into account. soviet BR2 SMG are overperforming compared to germans whether they be stock or upgraded.
btw i am for moving lots of BR2 smg to BR3(for all nations), but soviets are primary offender for powercreep that happened in BR2.
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Please, read what you just quoted