The Soviet weapon is very unbalanced

Soviet weapons are extremely unbalanced and offer no challenge at all.
Below are my proposed adjustments:**

  • PPS-42/43 → BR 3 (A submachine gun with such a high fire rate at BR 2 is devastating to the German BR 2 environment.)

  • Uragan’ SMG → BR 3 (Same reason as above.)

  • Fedorov Rifle 1912 → BR 3 (The Fedorov Rifle 1912 is too perfect for BR 2; the Winchester 1895 is sufficient.)

  • PPSh-41 (magazine) → BR 4 (A BR 3 SMG with a 0.21 accuracy stat and extremely high fire rate is completely unreasonable. Moving it to BR 4 without stat changes is justified.)

  • SVT-38 → BR 4 (A magazine-fed semi-auto rifle at BR 3 is unfair to other nations still using clip-fed semi-autos.)

  • PPD-34/38 & PPD-40 → BR 5 (Their high fire rate and drum magazines leave German BR 3 players helpless.)

  • Add APCR to the T-34-85 (As a last resort against the Tiger II H.)

  • Reduce AVT-40’s magazine capacity to 10 rounds(The AVT already has the fastest reload among automatic rifles—15 rounds are unnecessary.)

  • Remove the AS-44-5’s bayonet (No evidence confirms its bayonet lug is compatible with the SVT-40’s bayonet.)

  • Reduce AVS-36’s damage to 15.3 (Why does it deal 0.5 more damage than the AVT despite using the same ammunition? Makes no sense.)

  • Change the Fedorov Rifle (25)’s 3-round burst to full-auto and reduce its 100m damage to 12.

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maybe this time the russian is getting spoiled, maybe few months the other faction might get spoiled too

you might want to create separate suggestions for each of these because as of now I can agree with these

but some of the others are just too cruel.

20 round mag instead, please :pleading_face:

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  • PPS-42 can stay on BR II - I don’t see that weapon as to strong
  • PPS-43 yes, I agree with it - maybe nerf it and keep it in BR II OR if they move PPsH-41 with box magazine on BR IV then put PPS-43 without changes on BR III as compensation
  • it’s planned
  • or give us T-44-100 :slight_smile:
  • no - japan, USA / UK and germans have a semi auto. maybe a little nerf for Fedorov Rifle 1912 would be better
  • sry no
  • there is no huge reload difference between AVT-40 reload (2,4sec) and the counterparts on german side like FG 42 / FG 42 II (2,6sec) and T20 rifle (2,3sec)
  • yes, I never understood it, too
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It’s Mp40 but better

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I have the least problems with the PPS-42. I counter it with the Beretta M38/42.
DF / Gaijin could give as additional the FNAB buff with 550 base ROF (upgraded = 630 - same like Beretta M38/42) and thats all I need - but it’s another story
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PPS-43 and Uragan are imo far stronger then PPS-42

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0.2 seconds less than FG422, but do you want it to only have half the bullets of FG422? Crazy.

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Excuse me, what? I certainly disagree with your post on almost everything, but the part about the AS-44 and the lack of a bayonet is not true. Let me remind you that the AS-44 model 5 had a bayonet mount. What’s more, there are even official photos of the AS-44 model 4 (a premium unit with AS-44s with bipods), and it also had a bayonet. Moreover, there was nothing preventing both models, the AS-44 model 5 and the AS-44 model 4, from having both a bayonet and a bipod at the same time.

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All factions have semi-automatic rifles in the BR2, and Germany also has semi-automatic rifles with 6-round magazines. I don’t know why it’s too powerful.

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The only thing that the soviets have unbalanced is the body armor when it comes vehicles Germany got better ones when it come to small arms well USSR have better assaulters and Germany better LMG squads the rifles are depending on the BR but overall really its not easy thing to balance USSR against Germany but body armor and some hidden mechanics is not the way so lets start with turning body armor to cosmetic thing …

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Most I would agree with, however I would leave the Fedorov Rifle at BR2 as I don’t think it is too much for BR2 and the Soviets, other then the level one KB-P-135 don’t have another semi auto or assault rifle at BR2 I don’t believe. Plus only a six round magazine is on the weak side for level three.

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Had the US sent M1 Carbines to the Soviets with the Lend Lease act, then I would say that the 1912 Fedorov could be raised to level three because they could be armed with M1’s at level two, however I don’t believe any M1 or M2 Carbines were ever sent to the Soviets. So, keep the Fedorov at level two.

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First, I apologize for my mistake. The information provided by my friend only proves that the AS44 was designed with a bayonet lug but did not include a dedicated bayonet. Second, thank you for your detailed yet meaningless historical arguments. This is Enlisted, a ‘WW2’ game where you can use the PPS-43 and VG1-5 in Moscow, and encounter the Tiger II H in Stalingrad. Do you think these ‘time-traveling weapons’ are historically accurate? So, I believe the removal of the bayonet is simply for balance and to make assault rifles for other factions more fair.

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"In-game, the Winchester 1895 performs just as effectively as theFedorov Rifle 1912 .

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The AVT even has a bayonet, giving it a huge advantage in close-quarters combat

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Not necessary. Just practice shooting the Tiger II H’s bow machine gun port and commander’s cupola.

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Wait… you think 570 beats 700? Did your math teacher quit in 3rd grade?

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Actually, what Soviet BR2 needs is a large-magazine, low-damage semi-auto rifle – not some impotent high-damage peashooter.

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That’s right, we remove all Soviet submachine guns from BR2, let them fight only with Mosin rifles.

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If we move Pps43 and Uragan to BR3, Pps42 and obrez Ppsh will still remain BR2.
If you check the part I quoted, I did not include Pps-42.

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