Well. Remember the M16 also has a higher rof, and higher magazine size and the turret is faster. If 20mm would work, people wouldnt complain about its rather low aim and turret speed and the speed of the shells itself. Protection would be pointless anyway as the Wirbelwind has its entire crew crowded in the turret while M16 is at least kinda seperated.
A It wasnt used there
B We still have Berlin
I mean, just give the Berlin Axis it. More logical and would kinda help the Axis faction there to get more player attention.
At the same time they suffer from higher dispersion compared to .50 cals. The M15 gun of the M15 also sucks hard in return for losing 4 fast firing machine guns.
The crusader has a closed deckhouse, he will suffer much less from infantry. Itâs debatable, but I thought it was better since it is at a higher Br
Why? Shoot down an IL-2 flying at 200 km/h? He has no one to fight in Berlin, in Berlin the planes are generally not that good because of the maps.
No, if you want to fly over Berlin and just admire the views, you can use the flight simulator. However, it is in the skies of Normandy that the fiercest battles of all the campaigns are fought. So let there be strong planes. It is clear that the Me262 did not fly over Omaha Beach, but a little later it was used, and there is no problem for the developers here.
Berlin will get IS-2 and King Tiger, it will be something special, which is why I am against new tanks in Normandy
Damage adjustment is promised, the developers have heard the complaints, including because of my appeals. Do not think that Iâm trying to slip allies worse equipment, on the contrary, m16 seemed to me weak. With realistic damage in the ground 20mm guns they will tear up the planes.
In planes the cannons might do a little less damage (for the sake of slightly longer fights than âwho saw first winsâ) but it should be much closer to the damage in WT than now
So much for the âwe need better aaâ. Matters more how good it can rape infantry.
Well. I have nice time with the Stuka there but then it could be just me.
Also, the Me would still make more sense than in France if the Germans mainly used to protect the area of the Reich against bombers.
Yeah like after the StG which would be never plus two seasons I guess.
But then why do we need more planes in the same campaign with the most annoying payloads you can imagine in this game. The P-47 and Ju are already messing up the maps all day and night long. Its enough at this point.
Itâs AA, I just think itâs better to have a closed deckhouse so the infantry doesnât kill you while youâre looking up, donât you?
I feel much better as an infantryman and do at least 100 kills per game on average (even with Point Capture mode), so Iâm not afraid of anti-aircraft
Berlinâs planes are incredibly weak compared to Normandyâs, there are enough simple fighters.
Waiting, although I donât understand why they added mp43 instead.
Either way, theyâll both be crap until their damage is at least somewhat adequate compared to the SMG - 9.9-10.1 and when accuracy is better than the Thompson 21\28 (0.7 for the mp43 and 0.68 for the Thompson lol)
I didnât say it was all as well documented as possible. It goes no further than what is already in Normandy.
The high levels mean itâs not frequent, itâs not hundreds of mkb in Stalingrad.
It has long been clear that we are not having an invasion of Normandy, but part of âOperation Overlordâ. I believe anything that came out before December 1944 and isnât horribly broken can show up here.
Iâm not suggesting more than I already have. This would be a replacement option. Maybe someone will give up the p47 in favor of hispano p61 guns and his turret (the p47 doesnât).
The German do335 b2 would be better against the sky than ju, but worse against the ground because it has 500kg less bombs, which is significant.
just my suggestions would make fighting in the sky tighter, but at the very least would not increase the suffering on the ground.
Even Tempest I suggested with slightly less bombs than the current p51 as I think it is too much.
Well, I myself donât like that and feel like the Jumbo should be removed because of that. The M24 can stay cause itâs a premium.
But at least with these, they were actual mass produced vehicles which saw extensive comabt use. The B-2 had literally 2 prototypes, neither of which saw any real combat.
I mean, the A-0 or A-1 would be a stretch.
Adding the B-2 would literally be as realistic as adding the Maus.
Is what the Do-335 is. it handles liek a pile of crap. And if you said that the Fws have bad handling, just imagine how worse this thing will be. Itâll handle even worse than the 410.
Necessary game balance and unnecessary nonsense are different things.
You know what, letâs just add the frickin Hs-129 then.
Oh, and also, besides the whole night fighter thing, P-61s also only started to see service right about as Normandy was ending.
And we donât really have many of those yet. So might be cool to see one.
Yet, my problem with the M16 is that the crew can be killed by small arms fire. The wirble cannot.
So, imo M16 should be added as an early on reward (the early reward for the axis could be the 251 halftrack AA) and crusader AA as the later one.
You bring up a good point, but thing about it this way:
What could the russians get to counter it?
The best they could get is a yak9. And I feel as if the Tempest would be way better as a counter.
And, imo, for the He-162 would fit Berlin better (Itâs even called the VolksjĂ€ger).
Still not that much. Honeslty, Iâd say 20mms are even more accurate than 50s.
*2 Mgs. It still keeps 2.
But the main problem with the M15 is simply the horrid turret. Bad rotation, canât shoot forwards and the vehicle is slow.
Well. Iirc the gunner of the M16 and the Wirbelwind would be more or less protected as well albeit the remaining crew of the M16 would be exposed. But then if you go for air defence you wouldnt spend time on the choke points I guess / grey zone camping. Most likely you would die to AT weapons etc. anyway.
Agree though I dont know if they gonna add somethign stronger eventually (plus minus bomber calls and bombers are pain in the ass to kill).
Well. It wasnt against you directly but rather against the creator of the thread which claimed that.
If you climb it, you kill them as well (plus minus the hole for the gunner)
Could be but then Df never changed the progress before (adding something new in the existing levels). So I wouldnt count on that.
What the Yankees? The Meteor? Aside from being deployed after D-Day, I dont get it why the author here didnt use it. Asymemtrical balance would be okay for me but the majority of players dont like it.
But yeah⊠I dont know.
Well. I dont know the exact stats here. When I am wrong stat-wise, I am wrong but in my experience I had a better time with the M16 than with the 20mms of the Germans or any other autocannon (unless when it comes to killing tanks).
Yet the M16 has 3 crew. The gunner can be killed from the front with an accurate BA shot (so get ready for sniper bots) and the other 2 can get killed form the side.
Yeah, me neither, but I myself believe it would be good for the game. Even more so if it came with a whole progression overhaul. Tech tree when?
Is that a joke? (I was reffering to the soviets, not the western allies).
Yeah, the best russian rank 4 aircraft in wt are: La-9 (a 1946 plane), I-225 (2 prototypes made) and the Yak-9UT. So yeah, Yak9UT vs Me-262 seems a bit much for me.
I myself had best experiences with german AAs. 50cals just gave me hits most of the time.
I have already answered this question. In WT we only have the meteor mk3, which was used in 1945, which is too late. I would think if there was an early model, but there isnât. I didnât take planes that arenât in WT, because the developers definitely wonât do that.
Again, giving both sides the same planes (two jet ± equal) is kind of boring.
My bad again.
Anyway â616 Squadron Meteors saw action for the first time on 27 July 1944, when three aircraft were active over Kent.â Would say its on a similiar level as the Me at this point as the Me was mostly used to counter allied bomb raids in the Reich and saw very limited usage in the fronts itself.
Fair point.
Probably after StG in Berlin.
I rather said that the Yankees dont have a jet counter as well. So it probably must be a fighter. Yeah, the Western Allies have better air force but still not on the same level like a jet fighter (espeically if you give the M2 anti-air missles and bombs at the same time). Would be like AIDS vs. maybe syphilis.
But then I dont know how they gonna tweak the maximum speed of planes as they are capped between 400 and 500 (at least thats the maxmium speed I reached so far)
Iâm a fan of asymmetrical balance as long as it compensates for each other. Thatâs why 2 rajectives are boring.
They canât add mk1 due to its absence in wt
Late British piston planes reached 700kph, just the Tempest Mk5 could do up to 703. Me262 can do up to 865, but firstly the difference is not so big, and secondly, as I remember on the ground piston planes show themselves in speed better than at altitude and in Enlisted battles this difference will be even smaller.
Fair point but then again most people dislike it for some reason looking at Stalingrad or Normandy. Could live with that if woody doesnt like it though.
Fair point.
Fair point though again I dont know how they gonna perform if they still cap maximum speed. If the jets are still only able to reach like 500kmh max I doubt it will be that different anyway in terms of maximum speed (but rather acceleration).
