The future of engineer MG's CONCLUSION

It just looks wierd to me - MG magically attached on top of sanbags. That is why i suggest from the beggining - put machine gun on proper mount and keep little sandbag wall in front of it.

the game isn’t for everyone, and never will be. Pleasing the majority > pleasing the minority. No matter which way the vote goes, you should just accept it was the community’s choice if it ever gets implemented, or as you say, just stop playing.

Medium range rifle fire goes through it.

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If I’ll get in front of the mg for one second, I’ll literally be obliterated

Use cover 4head. You are literally trying to come up with the perfect, uncounterable situation JUST to justify not adding this shield thing. It is unreasonable to asume that every time this thing gets placed, it is in the perfect spot, with ample teammates backing it up. Because surprise, if the enemy has a sniper that counter-snipes people trying to get rid of the MG nest now, it cannot be countered either.

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Doesn’t matter. The second I get out of the cover, I die

Same with any weapon that is preaimed at you. No big deal.

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Maxim placed at the door is one of the easier examples that you can counter. A much harder one will be one placed on stairs. Especially the ones like last point in village invasion. It’s already quite difficult with sandbag mounted SMGs. One placed in a open ground will be even harder to counter depending on the situation due to how crammed the maps are at the moment.

I am open to Maxim getting a shield. But there should be a clear line as to what it can and cannot do. And the German counterpart should get advantages in some other area for the so called ā€˜asymmetrical balance’.

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  • higher rate of fire
  • much more gun depression as the maxim is basically on the ground and can’t depress much.
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Medium range rifle WILL NOT go thru it. All rifles except for AP ones have 1 mm of penetration

and all rifles weigh 5kg.
Certain things are unfinished and will get updated over time, with the rifles getting higher armor penetration than SMGs.

But that means you encounter cool down faster. The advantage comes with a direct disadvantage.

Soviets cried for reduction in recoil even with the higher rof for the PPD. I think German mains deserve to cry about the cool down.

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Fix the penetration first, then add shielded mgs. Easy
We’ll see more to it later

I pretty much agree. I’m just not okay with germany losing sandbag wall in favor of a tripod, while russia gaining a better cover for the machine gun.

As somebody else here suggested, sandbag wall in front of tripod might still work, but I cannot imagine it as a solution because of the inverse square law. The further the gunner is from the sandbag wall, the easier it is to see and hit the gunner, especially if the tripod is large and forces slightly over 1 meter in length away from the sandbag wall.

I am in favor of asymmetrical balance though, so the germans mg should get some other buffs

add barrel changing

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or reduce the cooldown

My problem really is just the Lafette MGs, which have a more stable mount than the others, meaning less recoil. Although it may be possible to balance it with limited vertical and horizontal shooting angles.
As for the shield, I would go with no, even though it could be balanced with the weakspot that is the water jacket.

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Why not add option to ā€œupgradeā€ mg nest after it’s built by hitting it with hammer to add sandbags?
Place mg, build it, hit it x more times, add preset sandbag that perfectly fits the gun. Easy

Soviets cried that hard that MPs got nerfed THREE TIMES
And the MG nest got nerfed twice
And panzer 2 got nerfed

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If you want to argue, please do it here The future of engineer MG's (poll)

We had this stupid argument yesterday, if you want/ don’t want shields…JUST VOTE

44% vs 56% is not enough to add shielded mgs. The difference is not that high