The direction of the game's balancing is wrong;

[CapitanRastrero]

Type Hei comes really close

[Myrm1don]

@Adamnpee

they need to nerf all SF rifles far beyond current state of FG-42.
Mainly to significantly increase recoils

Been playing squad 44…the recoil and reload speeds just feel so right…

[robihr]

@Euthymia07

None of the automatic rifles have less recoil than smgs…

well if you wanna be technical about it, then you are wrong.
m2 carbine has V:14 H:4
type hei AR V:15 H:6
mp18 V:14 H:10
austen mk 1 V:15 H:7
m1a1 thompson V:14 H:5
kiraly V:16 H:6

we could take into account ROF, but kiraly has highest ROF out of them all

[CapitanRastrero]

Where are you getting these numbers? For me it says type hei has V:60 H:22

[robihr]

from euthymias datamined table.

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[Dregomz]

@dumplingZZZ

The German faction’s various equipment is already extremely powerful, and I don’t need to elaborate much. The STG44 and FG42-2 are already the best weapons in the game

Stopped reading there you are a delusional and never played as a br5 Germany in your entire life. Your entire post is a fanfiction of a Soviet/Burger main.

AS-44 completely powercreeped STG44 it also has a bayonet to further lower it’s recoil and let you sprint faster without switching to the axe/sword

And FG42/II is the worst automatic rifle at BR5 and deserves a massive buff, all of them except FG42 also have a bayonet that as previously said decrease recoil and let you sprint instantly without switching to melee

For smgs and mgs there are similar advantages for the both nations while Germany has nothing that is stronger that they have already own. Even at BR2 germany has the worst smgs in the game. And at BR5 Kiraly is way worse than BR3 Soviet smg (that also has a broken dispersion and is more accurate than a stationary LMG).

[Euthymia07]

@robihr

m2 carbine has V:14 H:4

didn’t count the m2 since he mentioned the ones that kill in 1 hit
But i guess there’s 4/5 exceptions out of ~70+ smg’s

[MR_87]

Not “close”.
Type Hei already have lower recoil than Kiraly.

[dumplingZZZ]

My recent gaming time has been spent in the German camp, mainly playing in the Axis powers camp. You can follow my ID to check the match.

[Adamnpee]

@Dregomz

AS-44 completely powercreeped STG44

The stats are basically the same. The only significant difference is the bayonet. This obviously makes the AS better than the StG.

But the difference isn’t big enough to justify a “completely powercreeped” claim.

[Dregomz]

@Adamnpee

The stats are basically the same. The only significant difference is the bayonet. This obviously makes the AS better than the StG.

Even tho those tiny differences are around 5-10% you can add all small advantages and you have a better gun in all important categories of a gun than STG44

[Adamnpee]

@SlippingOrc10

unless you actually read the spreadsheet because

Well, that’s the problem. Game is providing only false or misleading informations.
And discussions like this are outcome.

[SzepWaxweiler]

@GeneralBrus

AVT 40 should get a 20 rounder mag.

Sure could be a good buff

@GeneralBrus

FG42 II should get increased damage and reduced rate of fire.

And why should it get reduced fire-rate is it historical reason or for balance reasons as far as I can tell historical reasons matter and dont at the same time Type Hei has ROF of 600 real life in game one is 790 almost 800 in an other case VMP 1926’s drum mag can only hold 25 round while in game it holds 40 and other little stuff so I dont see why we need to lower the ROF of FG-42 II since type Hei is in the same boat, it has its real life ROF altered in any case FG-42 also had ROF around 900 and it doesent fire that fast in game I would leave FG rebalance in hands of devs

@GeneralBrus

Type Hei should become a Assauler weapon,

Maybe not just adjust its ammo to 20 there was a 20 round mag for it anyway and also there is type 2 with 6.5 mm for assault weapon for Japan

@GeneralBrus

AVS36 and FG42 had 10 round mags in the real world.

I dont know about AVS but FG42 10 round mags were rare IRL they were there but were rare in fact they were so rare that the Bid for them starts at 1500 dollars anyhow I dont know about this change maybe ,maybe not

[CC_Cody]

@dumplingZZZ

Have you thought about how this affects Soviet faction players? They are in a faction that is weaker in almost every aspect.

These lines sum up all, whing about Soviet not getting a new toy when Germany finally gets some deserved qol changes. And, somehow, Soviet becomes the weakest faction in almost every aspect.

@dumplingZZZ

The correct approach would be to increase the recoil of these full-power rifles to the level of the AVS36 or AVT40. This would diversify the game’s weaponry, rather than continuing to enhance them and create more NOOB guns and laser weapons.

As if avt40 is not a noob gun

@dumplingZZZ

(The FG42-2 defaults to semi-automatic mode and requires manual switching to full automatic, which can be considered a form of penalty…)

Why would anyone want to impose an arbitrary penalty on a gun and consider it a good thing? Are you being disingenuous?

@dumplingZZZ

but also match common sense

The common sense is Soviet will get its new toys as the devs have hinted at the Manchuria front.

[TheUnclaimedOne]

@dumplingZZZ

And what are you doing? You’ve enhanced the German faction’s weapons, further buffing the already powerful FG42-2 and giving the STG44 faster reload speeds. Have you considered the consequences of this? You’ve created an even stronger faction. Have you thought about how this affects Soviet faction players?

Buddy, I’m gonna let you in on a little secret. Between the Allies, Axis, and Soviets, it isn’t the Soviets who are suffering from the arms race between the Axis and Soviets. The Allies have gotten the short end of the shaft repeatedly from the Axis after Merge brought your arms race to Normandy, and we are finally being brought up to speed with things like the T20 and, eventually, T26E1-1

[TheUnclaimedOne]

Sounds Soviet actually. Keep my faction name out yo mouth! Lol

[Daffan]

@GeneralBrus

Of course Assault and Battle rifles are better than SMGs, what are you complaining about?

If this is true, than why are the SMG’s br 4 and br 5?

[dumplingZZZ]

If you don’t understand why the FG42-2 is so overpowered, just look here. It trades higher vertical recoil for a straight trajectory and doesn’t have the 0.3 random recoil factor. The FG42-2 is far from being the weakest automatic rifle in the game; in fact, it’s the most controllable. I suggest you play the game more instead of just staring at the stats.

[Dregomz]

You are shooting at super close distances, let’s see how you will control recoil at the mid range with full auto FG42/II.

[dumplingZZZ]

(The direction of the game's balancing is wrong; - #31 by Dregomz):

I have no desire to defend against the slander toward my faction. For the past few months, I’ve been playing on the disadvantaged German side, and I’m tired of the mindless PvE experience that comes with playing on the dominant faction—it’s just too boring. My choice is to team up with a few friends and achieve victory from the underdog position. I can usually get 150 to 250 kills in a single match by myself, and that’s the thrill I enjoy. What I can’t stand is when the dominant faction takes that fun away from me.

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This is a recent video montage of my gameplay on the German side. Anyone doubting my skills can take a look. The FG42-2 is my favorite weapon.