The concept of body armor has been acknowledged at this point

You mean, using exploits to farm exp like you? No, I’m not doing that.

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I only did it for the event and when I mean game breaking glitches it’s to go up against sweat Lords and it means I don’t have to go around looking for a hack client if I wanna fight them.

Wait a minute. So you’re saying that while I’m trying to win, you’re doing nothing, right? You need to learn how to play. instead of trying to limit the players that make you win.
Even if the cuirass doesn’t protect you, you’ll still be a ballast.

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This has nothing to do with the conversation.

It’s not my fault you don’t know how to use it right and I’m not here to teach you.

You’re the only one who cares about it. Just because you can’t cope with an insignificant 10% damage reduction to the chest in a game where TtK is already extremely fast, doesn’t mean the devs should remove it from the game.

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best thing to show how body armor is effective is to actually provide graphs
here are graphs for fully upgraded guns

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basic soldier


basic soldier with body armor

soldier with vitality perk

soldier with vitality+armor

here are graphs for stock weapons

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I think you know already know armor and helmet Just work aganaist pistol rigth? Because the other gun Just do to much DPS for care of 10% damage reduction, so outside for make soldier look cool, they dont have impact on the gameplay

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it is not really that simple. check graphs above.

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I really dont understand the scrutiny.
Body armor only really effective against pistols on any meaningfull damage drop.
I have encountered armored soldiers and had no dificulties killing them.
And this is also very his. Accurt. since body armor was primarily supposed to be effective against sharapnels not bullets.

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Is thath simple

The graphs shows exactly that. In few secs, you are dead nevertheless.

On close distance, majority of people aims for the head anyway.

nah it isnt. if soviet soldier has vitality+armor, fg42 II would need 2 bullets at all ranges. but with only vitality fg42 II needs 1 bullet up to 40-50m. then you have mp40 that is can kill with 2 bullets on 10m with only vitality, but needs 3 bullets with vitality+armor.

you have forgot that there is damage dropoff with range.

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maybe skilled players do, but not majority of enlisted players.

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Well, I believe majority of PC players do. It’s base fps instinct. And I highly doubt Enlisted is first fps game for significant part of its playerbase.

considering skills of average enlisted player i dont know how you can make this kind of statement :stuck_out_tongue:

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With gun Who have between 550rpm (mp40) and 1000+rpm (ppsh) you are gonna fire 5-10 bullet or more per kill in a split of second, semi or auto it is

So Is thath simple, damage reduction Is effective Just aganaist pistol because other gun do to much DPS for care

if every bullet automatically found target i would agree. but majority of player sucks and 1 bullet more can mean difference between life and death. will it mean something for majority of situations? probably not. but it will still be useful in situations where you could survive and kill enemy cause of that extra 1 bullet.

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I’ve basically only been playing BR5 lately. And most of the players there definitely don’t lack skill when it comes to shooting.
The problem is that building rally points is more important to winning a match in Enlisted than proper shooting skill.

I certainly haven’t encountered poor shooting skills across the Enlisted player base. What I did experience was laziness to build rally points, and thus a complete disinterest in winning matches.
Shooting basically matters more than anything else for majority of Enlisted’s players.

This - 10% reduction has almost 0 impact on the gameplay but it’s enough to cause complains. So it’s overall impact on the game is purely negative and it should be removed. Armor should be purely a cosmetic thing.

Except you can’t remove the damage reduction because it’s a “feature” of some premium squads. So enjoy complains of axis mains untill the world ends.

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i have been playing BR5 and BR2. most of the time the ones who kill me are top 2-3 players with occasional kill from other players. also my aim sucks, my reflexes suck and i should be at best be in the middle of table if we go by skill level, but somehow i am usually in top spot or second spot when just using infantry. that is why i dont trust in players aiming abilities.

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