Recently, I often see the attacking team running out of 15 minutes at the first strategic point and having more than 500 reinforcements, but they are completely unwilling to attack!Undoubtedly, this is a boring game for both sides.
The awkward situation of hardworking players:
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The friendly team is full of campers:
Campers don’t care about winning or losing, but hardworking players will care. If the team is full of campers, they will be forced to launch an attack alone and be overwhelmed by absolutely powerful firepower.
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The enemy team is filled with campers:
Although hardworking players may win, it is undoubtedly a long and boring game, with campers in the gray area leaving them helpless and even unilaterally killed by campers.
Add 3 AI squads to each side, excluding 10 players.If players are unwilling to attack, they will attack and consume reinforcements.This will improve the gaming experience for defensive players encountering camping teams,And this is also good news for players who are willing to persist in their attacks.
The composition of these AI squads:
1.Having 7 or 9 soldiers will prevent them from quickly depleting reinforcements with very few soldiers.
2.These AI soldiers should have a health of 13.5 and possess the highest BR weapon in this game.
3.They will be more proactive in trying to build rally points.When there are only 1 to 2 players in the team willing to work hard to win, it will be a great help to them.But since the enemy also has the same AI squads, this will not have a decisive impact on the battle situation.
4.They do not use vehicles.
The benefits of doing so are:
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For players who persist in attacking:
At least some AI soldiers should distract the enemy’s attention, rather than forcing campers who are completely unwilling to leave the gray area to launch attacks alone without any support.
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For enemy players:
They can speed up the game process by killing these AI soldiers instead of being forced to wait for 15 minutes due to enemy campers.
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For campers:
The consumption of reinforcements will remind them to take action.(Doubtful)In short, these guys who don’t want to win at all will lose the game faster, and no one wants to waste time with them.
The punishment for desertion has brought many problems, and as a price for forcing players to stay, some measures are needed to improve their gaming experience. Hard working players should not suffer because of camping teams, at least we need some measures to improve their awkward situation.
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I dont really care, I just leave sht games punishment or not.
Affects mostly just new players, who must stay if they wish to progress.
The only logical solution would be some sort of sbmm.
Since this game is just a sandbox where everyone gets to do what ever they want.
Sniperlord9000 or what ever and camp all they want.
Irony here is this sandbox game punishes people for leaving, but takes 0 measures to improve the gameplay for everyone.
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So this is a problem.Reminder: Everyone has been a new player before.Games without new players will eventually disappear.
Although I hate campers very much, the things I mentioned will not hinder you from going camping at all.Will AI squads stop you from camping? 
Unless they will actively attack you with flamethrowers. 
If staying is the worst option, then deserter punishment is undoubtedly a failure.If you want to win but get the worst gaming experience, then this game is a failure.
I second that.
Works as quick join / quit sandbox game, thats about it.
No, they did not. Pure fallacy.
Only deserters are trying to blame everything on them.
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How long have you been playing games? It is a fact that deserter punishment brings more campers. Or are you one of the campers?
Wow, baseless accusations. 
except due to silly punishment that affects only new players.
More than often ive found ppl running circles aka stick a match between A & W or just run into corner with W.
As well as sitting in AA in games where theres literally 0 aircrafts.
And the people that could make the differency in the game still leave just like always.
Works as intended.
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No, it is not a fact. That’s your made up BS based on literally nothing except for your own delusion.
Not really. Unlike your baseless statement.
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That’s what I was complaining as well. And suggested much more reasonable punishments that would primarily target repeated systematic deserters. 
But that’s not really topic of this discussion. It’s a flaw, not “many problems”.
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Cant really figure a single decent thing the punishment brought, so essentially its just a problem entirely.
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Other players will see it very clearly, there is no need for you to ‘prove’ here.
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All I see is to only deserters and people with bad connection to cry about these punishments.
It’s funny how when people don’t have any meaningful arguments - just baseless statements, they always start to act like they’re in some majority.
No, you are not. That’s why these punishments were implemented in the first place.
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The punishment doesnt affect me at all.
Ive got pretty much everything I need unlocked, so I can do what ever I want regardless of the punishment.
Newplayers unfortunately doesnt have the same luxury.
And regardless im not exactly bestestestest enlisted player nor have any intrest to be one, I can still quite confidentally say im not exactly a newplayer who this punishment affects.
Dunno, quite hard to justify a punishment in game that does little to nothing to improve peoples experience.
Rather promote the sandbox style that everyone can do what ever the fk they want that they consider fun.
Except sniperlord9000 playstyle isnt exactly fun in my view and im “forced” to stick around with him.
So generally, it takes quite a bit of mental gymnastics to justify a punishment for people that want to have “fun”.
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If people still choose to be deserters:
The punishment for desertion has little effect.
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If there are more campers:
I’m right.
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One thing that can be confirmed:
Staying behind will not improve the player’s skills.Being forced to stay and unable to defeat the enemy, what else can these people do besides camping?So the game process needs to be accelerated.
It seems like there’s nothing favorable to your argument, I don’t know where you got your confidence.
It appears that playing Enlisted for fun isnt allowed.
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I want punishment for people who systematically undermines the core mechanic of this game - matchmaking - by exploiting desertion feature.
But I know you are not here to have meaningful debates. You are here just spread pathetic rage baits. I am not really going to react to you anymore.
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Oh no.
My fun exploits are not allowed. What a tragedy.
Pathetic.
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Since you say that, it’s better that you’re not a noob. Show me your achievements.
So in current terms making the game experience extremely un-fun for newplayers is the way to go ?
And as above mentioned, seen plenty of people just being afk with match or what ever stuck in W button so they just run in corner.
Generally, just being afk and doing something else rather than wasting time on unfun game.
So what did this punishment solve here ?
Hes AFK so hes just as useless as people who leave.
What a shame, you have brought such amount of intellectual value to conversation.
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I am not going to have never ending with obvious troll.
I already said that there’s way how to have penalty for desertion without targeting new players. But the problematic ones - repeated systematic deserters.
But you are still keep using the same old BS argument.
Whatever