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Guys, Darkflow needs our help. They can’t find Hurtgen Forest. I am calling on the forum community to do their part and help them find Hurtgen Forest.
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Guys, Darkflow needs our help. They can’t find Hurtgen Forest. I am calling on the forum community to do their part and help them find Hurtgen Forest.
More like Hurtgen “shrubland” now
There is so much shrubland! No berries and no turkeys, just AI shooting at you through these shrublands
Was waiting for a while before i got to play it, and i am still trying to find/see this forest,
jumped out of plane at height, still not see anything that resembles a forest
Real Hurtgen had so many bunkers and pillboxes that would put Normandy beaches to shame. You would obviously wouldn’t be able to use vehicles at all since there were mines and czech hedgehogs around every single road. Map we have in a game is a piece of a cake when compared to hell and impossibility to actual Hurtgen for the attackers. The real Hurtgen wouldn’t be fun to play since Americans would lose every single time.
The terrain, tough enough already, had steep, wooded heights
reaching up 1,000 feet and packed with firs and fast-flowing
little streams racing through the tight valleys. But for the at-
tacker, the Hurtgen Forest was made even more difficult by the
German fortifications: concrete pillboxes and bunkers fronted by
“dragon’s teeth,” with interlocking fields of fire, concrete stumps
to stop the advance of tracked vehicles, and extensive minefields
filled with the dreaded “Schu” mine, which couldn’t be detected
using the mine detectors of the time, and “bouncing Bettys,”
known more crudely by the troops who suffered them as “debal-
lockers.” These crude devices, with a series of metal balls that
exploded to about waist height, had devastating results when
detonated. One survivor said many years later: “We called it a
50-50 mine. The name was derived from your chance once you
trod on it. If you hit it with your right foot, the rod flew up your
right side. If you hit it with your left, you’d end up singing
tenor!”
For by sending troops into the forest, Collins lost the mobility
and superiority that his tanks and aircraft had given him so far.
Among the thick, tight rows of trees his fighter-bombers, Sher-
mans, and artillery hardly made themselves felt, while the shelter
afforded by the same woods and their network of bunkers lent
strength to the at first irresolute defenders.
It was a fatal mistake, perhaps the greatest one made by the
Americans in the eleven-month campaign in Europe. It was
condoned by all the Top Brass, right up to Supreme Commander
General Eisenhower himself, none of whom got within ten miles
of the actual fighting in the dark, bloody maws of the Hurtgen
Forest. It was a mistake compounded by the various divisional
commanders, who really knew what was going on. They saw
their divisions going into the forest to fight, on average, for two
weeks before being pulled out of the line—decimated. These
divisional commanders lost half their men, yet not a single
commanding general ever registered a protest. Dutifully and
obediently they sent their handful of veterans and large numbers
of callow replacements to an almost certain death (if they were
infantry) without once objecting to the futility of the exercise.
Week in, week out, month after month, the slaughter went on
from 1944 right into 1945. It would become perhaps the greatest
bloodletting in the history of the U.S. Army in Europe in World
War II. Yet in the final analysis, the six-month-long battle for
what was to become known as the Green Hell of the Hurtgen did
not affect the course of the war at all. The slaughter of America’s
youth there was totally and absolutely unnecessary. As the com-
mander of the 82nd Airborne, Gen. “Slim Jim” Gavin, whose
division was to take part in the last of the Hurtgen fighting,
would say contemptuously after the war, it was “a battle that
should not have been fought.”
I think you are missing something; here is a quote from Charles MacDonald:
Also, notice how many trees there are…
You know that Hurtgen was not only consisting of trees right? Germans built thousands of fortifications that were impenetrable by the tanks and engineers had to sacrifice their lives to clear up every single bunker and that’s was the reason why americans lost not just a forest.
Which was more plentiful in Hurtgen Forest, bunkers or trees?
They put cool fog in Moscow, why not Hurtgen. Great new maps that could be a lot better.
I believe it was a snow flurry, but that would at least help create the feeling of being engulfed in an “impenetrable mass.”