The 2 best ways to improve Enlisted

Number 1 - Add BR6 already:

With the addition of jets into the game, it has become apparent that BR5 has become too cluttered with top tier equipment to the point where half of the stuff you get in BR5 becomes outclassed by the time you reach the end of its respective line. Heavy tanks, jets, select fire rifles, and all the other fun toys that define BR5 outclass everything beneath them by a wide margin.

The unintended consequence of this is that it makes a stretch of equipment from the start of BR4 to the start of BR5 obsolete in the queues that they’re forced into. I think that separating the top tier BR5 equipment into its own BR would open up not only BR4, but also a new BR5. This would be healthier for game balancing as well, since every tier except BR6 would be able to get uptiered or down tiered consistently and that would keep certain BRs (BR3 Russia) from becoming too dominant since they could always end up facing a more prevalent higher BR because that BR doesn’t have to worry about facing jets and select fire rifles just cause they want to use the good semi autos.

This is in my opinion the best way to fix the blossoming issue of BR4 not being played by just about anyone.

Number 2 - Score requirement for vehicles:

HE spam is what I believe to be the most complained about aspect of Enlisted, and I think anyone who tries to find something more complained about has their work cut out for them.

In my time of playing I’ve noticed that it typically isn’t a singular vehicle that is problematic and annoying to deal with in games, it’s when enemy teams have a bottomless supply of tanks and aircraft and simply blow up anything and everything they see. With a bad team this becomes an unwinable situation for next to no effort on the part of the enemy spammers.

Ideally, a vehicle would cost a certain amount of score to spawn in, let’s say 1000 for a Sherman. At the start of the match you have to play infantry and play it well enough or long enough to get the score you need. Once you spawn in your Sherman, the accumulated score going towards vehicles resets entirely until you spawn in your next infantry squad, meaning that you can’t just sit in your Sherman until you get enough score to spawn in another Sherman, you have to play infantry every time you want to spawn in a vehicle.

This means no more vehicle cycling and more infantry focused matches. Vehicles should not be a crutch for bad players, nor should they be as prevalent as they are. Their role in this game should be as high risk high reward ways for people to support their team, offering something different from infantry but also having its own challenges like AA ground fire, AT guns, and the omnipresent threat of a TNT charge of explosive pack.

I am aware that these would be fairly drastic changes to the game, but I think they would be welcome improvements to the core gameplay.

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  1. Remove snipers

  2. Don’t listen to reddit and hivemind forum spammer.

  1. Remove snipers
  2. Remove bombing raids
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Thank you for your post.

Regarding the second point. I agree though not sure about the solution.

I dont like the idea of ā€˜tickets’ like War Thunder Realistic battles. They are annoying and stupid.

After all, what would happen is some smart alec on the enemy team is spamming HE and no one on your team can deal with him because even if they do have a tank/aircraft in their lineup, now they cant get the match XP required to spawn it to deal with him. (partly due to them dying instantly everytime they spawn due to HE).

I believe DF just needs to focus way more on proper vehicles instead of continuing to import OP tanks and aircraft from War Thunder.
If people want to spam heavy tanks, they should clear off and play War Thunder.

The prototype and heavy tank fetish of some has unfortunately led to stupid ā€˜fixes’ like guerillas (a ridiculous idea) and every single faction now having German rocket launchers…

As for BR VI. I agree. Jets should be completely separate. In my opinion BR IV is actually more of a problem than BR V in regards to being outclassed.

Some BR IV weapons really belong in BR III and DF has addressed that in some instances like finally moving the Johnson rifle down and the Type Otsu and Type 4 rifles for Japan to II and III respectively.

But there are other BR IV weapons like the Kiraly which are arguably OP at BR III, yet very outclassed at BR V. Indeed its not even that the Kiraly for example is ā€˜bad’ at BR V, more that why use a Kiraly when you can use STGs?
Same goes for the Johnson LMG (though tbh it probably belongs at BR III anyway).

BR VI would allow the Korean War potentially (which was like 95% WWII era weapons, the overwhelming majority of which are already in game).

For myself Im thinking something like

BR I-III normal WWII. (but still separate) Normal, enjoyable bolt action gameplay, some real life WWII semi auto rifles (eg M1 Garand, G41).

BR IV - high rank WWII. This would be entirely separate to BR I-III and where you find your STGs, Panthers and so forth.

BR V - prototype fairytale land your type Hei auto rifles, T20, Ho Ri Production and such like.

BR VI - jets and absolute OP tech, with potential to be an early Cold War BR (Korean War, First Indochina War as in 1945-1954 Vietnam, Malayan Emergency)

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For your point against the score requirement, I think that AT guns, AT launcher, and designated tank destroyers could be buffed to help out.

AT guns could have their HE shells decreased or outright removed to make them designated tank killers, AT launchers could have their ammo increased to allow more opportunity to snipe greyzoning tanks, and tank destroyers could also have their HE shells decreased or removed in order to make them designated tank killers at the cost of a lower score.

But generally there’s no scenario in the game in which a singular tank is able to keep an entire team at bay without itself being vulnerable to AT fire or bombs.

Also about your image of what the BRs should be, I think BR6 should be the prototype, select fire, heavy tank, jet BR. The new BR5 would require some creative balancing, especially for Japan, but I think it would be for the best.

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Go to WT rb matches then there you got that stuff, i agree with some sort of things to implement in Enlisted from WT but the score to spawn for vehicle noway bro there are ppl out there who dont can reach 1000 score what is here totally easy in enlisted, i make easy 8k score but im not talking from me. There are other things to ā€œmake enlisted a better placeā€ then what you say, but of course br6 whould be nice :blush:

why people saying remove sniper?like wht is problem them… sniper camping is one of the reason why people lose also they r not that annoying

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For me the best way to improve Enlisted is giving the solo players the choice of choosing to play only other solo players. This could be easily done by adding a play solo only choice box above the start button. Stacked groups and mentally challenged game bots ruin more games for me then anything else.

BR 5 should be also be isolated from all other BR levels.

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Sniper stays they important in a war, i and many others like to play them and if its annoying for you to killed by Sniper than sry (yaeh really sorry bro) thats war and there are many other filthy things than that. If a member plays Sniper like a pro and knows the map he can clear the field of 70% without being killed.

And for reddit its a sure to dont Listen they talking crap

Aren’t both of those pretty prevalent in war? Should we also remove tanks and artillery? :joy:

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Terrible idea.

Adding more BRa as long as we don’t have 0± MM is pure toxicity.

Instead of BR4, you just don’t want anyone to play BR5 I guess.

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People would still play BR5, I know I’d still play BR5

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The biggest problem with this game is the spam of HE shells from engineers’ cannons, radio artillery, and planes. With coordinated matches between players, it’s practically endless — wiping out squads right at the respawn and making the screen shake non-stop.

Ignoring whether a new BR is a good idea at all, the idea of ā€œBR 6 to represent the Korean Warā€ doesn’t really make sense. At least in terms of ground equipment the war was mostly fought with equipment that was already around during WW2 (ie stuff we already have in the game) and out of all the Korean War gear we already have, the only one which I can think of being justified going up to a hypothetical BR 6 is the Meteor (and that’s assuming the F Mk 3 variant was even used there as otherwise it isn’t even relevant to the Korean war convo). There was some post-war equipment which was used during the war but again, barring combat aircraft which did make a massive leap in the time period, none of them to my knowledge are powerful enough to go beyond BR 5.

make bombers working again, sniper slot, 1 per team, change snipers position for engies

The sniper part was hyperbole, new players should be given engineer squads instead of sniper squads but snipers still have their place in the game.

Bombing raids however are a noob trap that does nothing but actively detriment your own team and give an opportunity for enemies to get free points. They need to be buffed, reworked, or removed entirely.

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BR6 in this case would be the likes of the IS-3, Jagdtiger, Maus, T95. Its less early cold war but more slightly post war/wartime equipment that is otherwise too powerful for the current game. Currently for BR4 facing BR5, the BR5 tanks arent the biggest issue, its the fact that BR5 small arms completely rinse BR4, imo at least.

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I’m legally blind in one eye, and see fine out of the other but my eyes kind of fight against each other, which is one reason I suck with a bolt action rifle. So, back when I started, level one was mostly bolt action, and if I remember correct had one assaulter and one medic squad. So, I only used my medic, assaulter and sniper squad, since I could snipe much easier then bolt because it was from a distance and it was easier then trying to aim at closer up moving targets. :grin: So fast forward to today three years later, pretty much all my squads are smg, mg or fully auto rifle squads at high levels, no boltie, and my sniper squads are all at level five where they are really assaulter squads with the option to snipe since I carry a secondary weapon.

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Why would people play the new br5 if you move most of the good stuff to br6? It will just become like the current br4 that barely has any players.